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Pelo1968 t1_itnk32p wrote

Unless they are telling you that fast-food is the only healthy diet where is the problem ?

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Meatrition OP t1_itnl7gm wrote

The Academy’s corporate financial contributions and its corporate investments The AND has maintained financial ties to food, pharmaceutical and agribusiness corporations, despite criticism and the potential reputational risks identified by some ex-Academy members(32). We found three main types of financial ties.

First, FOI documents revealed the corporate financial contributions to the AND for the years 2011, and 2013 to 2017 (Table 1). In 2011, the AND received more than US$300 000 from Hershey Co., a chocolate manufacturer, and nearly US$300 000 from the National Dairy Council (NDC), Conagra, Coca-Cola and Aramark, a company providing food services. Abbott, a pharmaceutical company selling infant formula, as well as General Mills and Cargill each donated more than US$100 000 in 2011 and maintained substantial donations from 2013 to 2017. Food and beverage companies such as Nestlé, Coca-Cola and PepsiCo, with the exception of General Mills, reduced their contributions over time. Nevertheless, contributions from companies such as Pharmavite-Nature Made and Abbott increased substantially during this same period. Overall, contributions shrunk by more than US$600 000 in 2015 and by more than US$500 000 in 2016, in respect to previous years.

Second, FOI documents showed large corporate donations to the ANDF from 2011 to 2015, listed in Table 2. Between 2011 and 2014, the Foundation received more than US$2 million each year from corporations, representing approximately a third of its total revenues for that period. In 2015, the corporate funding dropped under US$2 million, but corporate funding still represented more than 62 % of the ANDF’s revenues. Third, our findings suggest that ANDF is a means for corporations to reach out to young students and professionals. From 2009 to 2015, corporate contributions to the Foundation were US$15 million. Of these funds, more than US$6 million were transferred to AND members through the distribution of awards, scholarships, research grants, fellowships and other ANDF-led programmes. Of these, US$4·5 million went to an initiative called the ‘Champions Program’, which granted funds to hundreds of non-governmental organisations to support projects ‘promoting healthy eating and active lifestyles for children and their families’ (Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics Foundation Industry Foundation Support Fundraising Industry Revenue, 2015). At least US$500 000 went to stipends for public nutrition education programmes. Between 2009 and 2012, the General Mills Foundation provided an additional US$2 million directly to the Champions Program and summed a total US$7·5 million in 2015 after 13 years of donations(33).

Lastly, internal AND documents from 2015 to 2016 show that AND invested its funds in the stock of several pharmaceutical companies such as Abbott, Johnson & Johnson, Perrigo Co., Pfizer Inc., Allegra, Merck & Co., and some food and beverage companies such as PepsiCo, Nestlé and J.M. Smucker’s Company.

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nazariomusic t1_itnlfcu wrote

Usually when a corporation is financing any scientific institution, they believe they can influence what 'facts' are disclosed to the people. That's where the real problem lies.

Plus, people are already way too fat and out of shape as it is. Also, access to good healthy foods are almost impossible to find outside of big cities or the suburbs surrounding them. And even in the cities it's like $25 for a salad bowl that's healthy and delicious, yet happy meals are still like $6. Makes no sense tbh.

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__xtina__ t1_itnmo9d wrote

Not to mention all the sponsored ads in the “smart brief” research emails we AND members get and the free CEU trainings that seem to be always sponsored by the beef check off initiative or dairy council…

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Pelo1968 t1_itnnpna wrote

Academia will only get corrupted so far , hence peer review. It's one thing to over emphasize red meat in diet, it becomes the subject of debate. No one will ever buy an all meat diet.

On the other hand ... people have been fooled into believing an all vegetable diet is best ...

I guess lobbying can be a thing to fear ...

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nazariomusic t1_itnpa5u wrote

You would be surprised. I moved out of Philly to scranton PA and I'm working in a fine dining restaurant down here. I've never heard so many grown men above the age of 15 say they hate vegetables and just wanted steak and potatoes (which is a vegetable but u know what I mean)

Most people think it's 'manly' to eat steak and pork chop day in and day out. You tell them how dirty pigs are or that beef is a known carcinogenic, and they will tell u they don't care.

So there clearly is a lack of proper nutritional education going on at all ages over here. Plus just looking at people and their ailments is rather sad. Especially knowing that if they ate healthy, exercised and stopped drinking so much beer most of what they are suffering from wouldn't be a problem.

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nazariomusic t1_itnqw6l wrote

I'm literally right in between Philly and NYC. Both would be a 2 hr drive from me. Both I've been to many times and just can't imagine how anyone without $100k a year salary could afford to live here.

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redandblack17 t1_itnrhxq wrote

It’s so easily seen in the school nutrition recommendations. We truly don’t need to have a FEDERAL REQUIREMENT to serve milk at breakfast and lunch but dairy lobbyists have made it so. Even just looking at MyPlate, the dairy rec has always been insane to me.

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Pelo1968 t1_itnsmzy wrote

Ok first off pigs aren't dirty. This is just a rumor because people would feed the table/kitchen scraps and they like to wolow in mud, which actually revealed them of "outermost" parasites.

That being said : the "meat and potatoes" thing "is" an idiotic machismo thing with the caveat that if you are actively bodybuilding the animal protein is a must. Mind you, you still need the minerals and vitamins and varied veggies are the best source.

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GuitarGeezer t1_itnu2em wrote

American voters alone have the motive to fix political corruption in campaign finance and so far they suck horribly at every aspect of it with possibly 98% consistently failing to ever contact any leaders to so much as lift one finger to complain about legalized bribery and coercion. Congress staffs are amazed and relieved at how stupid voters are to never oppose corruption.

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jemappellepatty t1_ito6ytl wrote

One of the authors, GR, is the executive director of US Right to Know: https://geneticliteracyproject.org/glp-facts/u-s-right-to-know-usrtk-organic-industry-funded-anti-bio-group-attacks-researchers/

The Academy has their issues, sure, but this is a flagrant attack on registered dietitians as a whole (who, by the way, are not credentialed through the AND but through the CDR). Most dietetic professionals I know are not members of the Academy.

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Diztrakted t1_its8izx wrote

"if you are actively bodybuilding the animal protein is a must"
Clarence Kennedy would like to have a word with you. Though not technically a bodybuilder, he's vegan and one of the strongest Olympic weightlifters not currently competing. You do not need meat, or even animal protein at all, to be crazy strong.

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Diztrakted t1_its97eq wrote

This doesn't read to me as an attack on dieticians. It reads as an attack on the AND and their cooperate sponsors. It's a systemic issue they're pointing out, and they're within their rights to do so.

Extraneous FOIA requests notwithstanding, they have a point.

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