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nazariomusic t1_itnlfcu wrote

Reply to comment by Pelo1968 in The corporate capture of the nutrition profession in the USA: the case of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics -- The documents reveal a symbiotic relationship between the AND, its Foundation and corporations. Corporations assist the AND and ANDF with financial contributions. by Meatrition

Usually when a corporation is financing any scientific institution, they believe they can influence what 'facts' are disclosed to the people. That's where the real problem lies.

Plus, people are already way too fat and out of shape as it is. Also, access to good healthy foods are almost impossible to find outside of big cities or the suburbs surrounding them. And even in the cities it's like $25 for a salad bowl that's healthy and delicious, yet happy meals are still like $6. Makes no sense tbh.

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Pelo1968 t1_itnnpna wrote

Academia will only get corrupted so far , hence peer review. It's one thing to over emphasize red meat in diet, it becomes the subject of debate. No one will ever buy an all meat diet.

On the other hand ... people have been fooled into believing an all vegetable diet is best ...

I guess lobbying can be a thing to fear ...

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nazariomusic t1_itnpa5u wrote

You would be surprised. I moved out of Philly to scranton PA and I'm working in a fine dining restaurant down here. I've never heard so many grown men above the age of 15 say they hate vegetables and just wanted steak and potatoes (which is a vegetable but u know what I mean)

Most people think it's 'manly' to eat steak and pork chop day in and day out. You tell them how dirty pigs are or that beef is a known carcinogenic, and they will tell u they don't care.

So there clearly is a lack of proper nutritional education going on at all ages over here. Plus just looking at people and their ailments is rather sad. Especially knowing that if they ate healthy, exercised and stopped drinking so much beer most of what they are suffering from wouldn't be a problem.

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Pelo1968 t1_itnsmzy wrote

Ok first off pigs aren't dirty. This is just a rumor because people would feed the table/kitchen scraps and they like to wolow in mud, which actually revealed them of "outermost" parasites.

That being said : the "meat and potatoes" thing "is" an idiotic machismo thing with the caveat that if you are actively bodybuilding the animal protein is a must. Mind you, you still need the minerals and vitamins and varied veggies are the best source.

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Diztrakted t1_its8izx wrote

"if you are actively bodybuilding the animal protein is a must"
Clarence Kennedy would like to have a word with you. Though not technically a bodybuilder, he's vegan and one of the strongest Olympic weightlifters not currently competing. You do not need meat, or even animal protein at all, to be crazy strong.

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Pelo1968 t1_itsnzx0 wrote

I just read up on Clarence ...

Get effing real.

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Diztrakted t1_itx1pbq wrote

What, are we talking steroid use now? I think you're missing the point.

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harrietlegs t1_itnqkwt wrote

??? Where do you live where a Salad bowl is $25? I just went to Detroit, MI and food was usually $10-12 a meal/a decent portion.

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nazariomusic t1_itnqw6l wrote

I'm literally right in between Philly and NYC. Both would be a 2 hr drive from me. Both I've been to many times and just can't imagine how anyone without $100k a year salary could afford to live here.

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QuestionableAI t1_itns9z3 wrote

first part correct, second part misses how the corporate diets got them fat

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