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SpecterGT260 t1_jbt0gc5 wrote

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Maverick0984 t1_jbtuson wrote

Probably more a function of your teacher and less a condemnation of the education system. There are stupid people all around us...

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SpecterGT260 t1_jbtzony wrote

It wasn't the only example. I had teachers in almost every grade that didn't know their own material and made very basic errors.

Had one tell us in middle school (geometry) that light reflects off a mirror always at a right angle. He also stuck to his guns on this until I asked him what would happen if you looked straight into a mirror and then moved 1 inch to the right. Would you be staring at the wall to your left?

Another middle school teacher was adamant that radicals just cancelled out negatives. Because -2 squared is 4, therefore any time you interact with a radical the negative just disappears. I ended up with detention for fighting for -sqrt(4) is in fact -2 like the book said and not a typo like the teacher insisted. To be fair, he normally taught gym, but this was supposed to be the advanced algebra class... And I was even in one of the better public school systems.

The problem is that the education degree has very little to do with the subject matter being taught. A tech CEO may know a lot about running a business but that doesn't mean they should be teaching the programmers code. Yet we have almost none of the basic subject matter in the training for those tasked with training our kids. It's silly

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Maverick0984 t1_jbu01jj wrote

Maybe your school was just bad? I don't know what to tell you. Your anecdotal experience differs wildly from mine.

I assume you're happy with what teachers are paid as well based on this "analysis"

Edit: typo

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SpecterGT260 t1_jbu13ij wrote

I addressed that. A top scoring school in ITBS/ITED. I went to a great college and ended up going to professional school. I don't feel I had any obstacles to the life I now have because of primary school. But there were still problems.

And yes, I think we should pay teachers more. It would draw in more people who are actually good educators. Are you trying to make a point?

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Maverick0984 t1_jbuaux3 wrote

My point was that your experience is completely anecdotal yet you claim it as fact. If your school was ranked well, then you got bad teachers in an otherwise good school. Assuming all teachers are improperly trained and dumb is just plain ignorant.

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SpecterGT260 t1_jbuc32a wrote

I claimed it as a personal opinion. You're looking for a fight and I'm not interested

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Maverick0984 t1_jbucu2h wrote

You never once mentioned the words "personal" or "opinion".

Here are some exerts from your posts:

>Permafrost always reminds me of how broken the education system can be. ​

>The problem is that the education degree has very little to do with the subject matter being taught...Yet we have almost none of the basic subject matter in the training for those tasked with training our kids. It's silly ​

Seems awfully universal to you in these posts my guy.

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SpecterGT260 t1_jbue3cq wrote

You still seem to be looking for a fight. Do you disagree that we should have educators that understand the material?

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Maverick0984 t1_jbuh3gm wrote

If that's your question, you clearly don't understand what I'm saying.

The vast majority of teachers do understand the material. You had some weird bad luck and that's the end of it.

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SpecterGT260 t1_jbujgmt wrote

It's weird how you don't seem aware that your statement is also anecdotal. My experience was that there are plenty who don't understand it. If you didn't have that experience perhaps you were lucky or you also didn't understand the material.

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Maverick0984 t1_jbuphok wrote

I'm not the one with the claim. Burden on proof lies with you.

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SpecterGT260 t1_jbuqone wrote

I'm not trying to prove anything. I am just stating my experience. Based on that experience, I believe the proportion of teachers who are teaching subjects they are unfamiliar with is too high.

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Maverick0984 t1_jbuqywb wrote

Yeah, that's not the only thing you said though. You made blanket claims. See the previous post of mine where I pointed a couple of these instances out. You are trying to backpedal those statements now.

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SpecterGT260 t1_jbusmrf wrote

My mistake. The statement has been amended here. What is your next issue, sir?

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