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Test19s t1_jbebqf3 wrote
IIRC modern Europeans are relative latecomers, genetically speaking, and the earliest human remains found on the European peninsulas are genetically closer to Asians and Indigenous Americans than they are to the Europeans of, say, the Middle Ages.
UrgeToToke t1_jbejjoo wrote
This was always suspected, but nice to have modern research back it up.
Test19s t1_jbejxxj wrote
“So, uh, this weird peninsula on the west coast of Asia, whose population is indigenous to nowhere because the real natives died off, is going to become the dominant power in world history.” Truth is stranger than fiction sometimes.
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sea_of_joy__ t1_jbhz40n wrote
> “So, uh, this weird peninsula on the west coast of Asia,
Don't you mean Europe?
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Water_Spice t1_jbhx7i5 wrote
What region did the modern Europeans come from?
Test19s t1_jbi5257 wrote
A mix of Middle Eastern, North African, and Central Asian iirc.
toaster404 t1_jbfbvn2 wrote
I'd like to see this tied into the mitochondrial DNA story, and really fleshed out with maps. Tied to archaeological cultures in more detail. I'm sure that's being done. Very interesting.
Lysergsaurdiatylamid t1_jben6bn wrote
So we're all Spanish in the end
DreamingIntoTheVoid t1_jbgpic4 wrote
Lo siento, hace frío
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Wagamaga OP t1_jbdzich wrote
Surprisingly, the research team found that populations from different regions associated with the Gravettian culture, which was widespread across the European continent between 32,000 and 24,000 years ago, were not closely related to each other. They were linked by a common archaeological culture: they used similar weapons and produced similar portable art. Genetically, however, the populations from western and southwestern Europe (today's France and Iberia) differed from contemporaneous populations from central and southern Europe (today's Czech Republic and Italy).
Furthermore, the gene pool of the western Gravettian populations is found continuously for at least 20,000 years: their descendants who are associated with the Solutrean and Magdalenian cultures stayed in southwestern Europe during the coldest period of the last Ice Age (between 25,000 and 19,000 years ago) and later spread north-eastward to the rest of Europe. "With these findings, we can for the first time directly support the hypothesis that during the Last Glacial Maximum people found refuge in the climatically more favourable region of southwestern Europe" says first author Cosimo Posth.
The Italian peninsula was previously considered to be another climatic refugium for humans during the LGM. However, the research team found no evidence for this, on the contrary: hunter-gatherer populations associated with the Gravettian culture and living in central and southern Europe are no longer genetically detectable after the LGM. People with a new gene pool settled in these areas, instead. "We find that individuals associated with a later culture, the Epigravettian, are genetically distinct from the area‘s previous inhabitants," says co-author He Yu. "Presumably, these people came from the Balkans, arrived first in northern Italy around the time of the glacial maximum and spread all the way south to Sicily."
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-05726-0