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Brain_Hawk t1_jechvp1 wrote

Ok so first. Frontiers is trash..I'm embarrassed I ever published therein. Also what does it mean "improvement of symptoms but also their severity"? How is improving symptoms not the same as improving their severity, or am I misreading that?

And the language in that abstract. Wow. Relapse rate that cannot be ignored indeed. I suspect a non native speaker, for which I feel so much empathy (science.is so hard, imagine doing it in a.sdcond language!!) But that passed review and editors. Very non scientific language in the abstract.

Results ok maybe interesting. Bigger question toe is how it compares to other interventions (I'll admit didn't read that much!) To.some extent, doing nearly anything might improve depression. Sonia yoga better than, say, joining a lawn bowling league? Is it the yoga or the social, etc aspect.

Though one hopes many such studies on yoga had appropriate active controls so mayne im guilry of that thing where people dismiss research via a false belief the researchers lacked basic competence.

I should quick read it but I'm in a Lyft and.almost home, the science day is done :)

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ghsgjgfngngf t1_jeemyv1 wrote

I'm sure that the effect is real and also that it would probably be comparable to many other interventions that are activities (and not something like handing them a leaflet). It's exercise and of course exercise has a positive effect.

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Sparkysparkysparks t1_jeds8ur wrote

Yeah - I had a good look at the inclusion criteria and the table of included studies. Lots of them did not have any kind of active control eg waitlist control or none). Therefore we don't really know if yoga is better for these symptoms than just reading a book or stretching or going for a run - or even just doing something new (Hawthorne effect).

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MadcapHaskap t1_jeekcs0 wrote

As a good generalisation, I don't take sociological studies seriously unless they figure out how to double blind it. Otherwise the effect inevitably hoes away when researchers with the opposite bias try it.

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Brain_Hawk t1_jeeqlqc wrote

This isn't sociological. It's interventional psychiatry.

Some things of course cannot be blinded, because well it's an intervention that people know they got. And it will design study you can compare the efficacy of different interventions.

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MadcapHaskap t1_jeetcd8 wrote

Blinding things can be tough, sure.

But the efficacity is inevitably what the researchers think it should be. Get some researchers with a negative opinion of yoga, and you'll get negative outcomes.

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