Sculptasquad t1_je15kfj wrote
Prepare yourself, the "healthy at any size"-mob is on it's way. We still have some time since, you know... It takes them a while to get around.
Edit - Seems like they got here.
I find it incredibly sad that you are not allowed to poke harmless fun at a movement that is actively promoting a dangerous lifestyle that contributes to the rampant obesity epidemic.
tjleewilliams t1_je2k99c wrote
I'm just learning that this movement exists, and I view it as tantamount to the anti-vaxxers/anti-maskers. It's easier to just deny the truth than to change their behavior so that's the route they take, but that doesn't mean we have to accept that idiocy as a valid alternate version of the truth.
arrozconfrijol t1_je3hots wrote
Health at any size is exactly what the study says! The healthy lifestyle changes created positive outcomes, even if the weight was gained back.
Heal at every size simply means that “health” and “healthy behaviors” are available to people no matter what their size is. You can be 400 pounds and start a workout routine, you can quit smoking, you can eat foods that make you feel nourished and good, you can go to a therapist and heal your eating disorder, you can meditate, you can practice self love, etc. And by focusing on things other than weight loss you can get to a healthier place without the psychological damage that focusing on only numbers on a scale can hace.
But everyone is different and everyone’s issues with food are different. Some people thrive on being bullied and proving people wrong, some people are very very hurt by that and it has the opposite effect. Health at every size provides a more gentle and holistic approach to working towards a healthier body. No matter what size that body is.
Sculptasquad t1_je3jxnb wrote
>But everyone is different and everyone’s issues with food are different. Some people thrive on being bullied and proving people wrong, some people are very very hurt by that and it has the opposite effect. Health at every size provides a more gentle and holistic approach to working towards a healthier body. No matter what size that body is.
While telling people anti-science like"you can be healthy at 400 pounds". We know this isn't true. All other factors being equal, being obese raises the risk of heart disease by 28%.
https://academic.oup.com/eurheartj/article/39/5/397/4081012?login=false
It also does not help that obesity increases the risk of other issues like: Diabetes, Cancer and Arthritis.
https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/obesity-and-overweight
arrozconfrijol t1_je3l78s wrote
Please read my comment again. I didn’t say you can “be healthy at 400 pounds,” I said you can be 400 and engage in healthy behaviors: like eating better, working out, etc. And even if you don’t lose 200 pounds, your health will probably improve. It’s not too far from that the study in this link is showing.
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arrozconfrijol t1_je3gk6m wrote
Have you read any books on “health at any size”? Do you know what it’s basic ideas are?
Sculptasquad t1_je3ksvs wrote
No. Yes.
"Weight Inclusivity: Accept and respect the inherent diversity of body shapes and sizes and reject the idealizing or pathologizing of specific weights."
This is anti-science. The available data indicates that obesity raises risks of most diseases.
"Health Enhancement: Support health policies that improve and equalize access to information and services, and personal practices that improve human well-being, including attention to individual physical, economic, social, spiritual, emotional, and other needs."
But they want to suppress information regarding how much a healthy person should weigh.
"Respectful Care: Acknowledge our biases, and work to end weight discrimination, weight stigma, and weight bias. Provide information and services from an understanding that socio-economic status, race, gender, sexual orientation, age, and other identities impact weight stigma, and support environments that address these inequities."
There is certainly a weight stigma, just like there is a smoking stigma and a concussion stigma. None of these preventable factors promote health.
"Eating for Well-being: Promote flexible, individualized eating based on hunger, satiety, nutritional needs, and pleasure, rather than any externally regulated eating plan focused on weight control."
Hunger is a a horrible metric for healthy eating since obese people are hungrier than a healthy person. This is partly why people without discipline find it so difficult to lose weight. "But I was hungry".
"Life-Enhancing Movement: Support physical activities that allow people of all sizes, abilities, and interests to engage in enjoyable movement, to the degree that they choose.”
This is cool. but the biggest intervention regarding weight loss is dietary. You can always eat more calories than you burn.
arrozconfrijol t1_je4xdyv wrote
I hope at the very least you see that “health at every size” is not just saying people saying “I’m healthy!” no matter what size they are and the lifestyle they have. It’s a movement with specific tenets aimed at making healthy behaviors and health accessible to everyone. Specially to people who are usually treated pretty terribly by society at large, which is has dramatic consequences all around for a lot of people.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6565398/
I also encourage you to look into the complex issue of diets, and how most of them don’t work in the long term.
https://health.osu.edu/wellness/exercise-and-nutrition/that-diet-probably-did-not-work
https://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/Dieting-Does-Not-Work-UCLA-Researchers-7832
A lot of people, specially people who have weight issues from a young age, spend their whole lives on and off diets, in a constant cycle of weight gain and loss that destroys their metabolisms.
This approach has the potential to avoid that, and lead to actual sustained health physical benefits and better mental health outcomes.
https://nutritionj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1475-2891-10-9
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