Submitted by halebounddr t3_11g218c in science
Seraph811 t1_jamvkon wrote
Reply to comment by Ok-Cut4890 in Anxiety can be created by the body, mouse heart study suggests by halebounddr
Wait wait wait. IBS as in irritable bowel syndrome? There is a correlation to anxiety? There's a treatment? The comments in this thread are actually giving me a bit of hope. I've been seeing a gastroenterologist for awhile now which has felt like lightning money on fire while the situation gets worse.
halebounddr OP t1_jan4ytv wrote
I've found that it's critical to treat the cause, and there are a lot of different causes for IBS. Perceived psychological stress and anxiety are the two most common causes that I see. Food intolerances like gluten is up there, too.
Ok-Cut4890 t1_jamzml2 wrote
Yes, go to a different doctor. Or ask the current one about Viberzi if you have IBS-D. Also look into Yoga and yoga breathing techniques. Yoga is meant to manipulate/calm the vagus nerve, which is a major factor in IBS health.
As unintuitive as it sounds you can try Miralax even for IBS-D. Look up a miralax bowel prep and do the first couple days. It works wonders for me as it actually clears out my colon and I get relief.
2nd opinions are very very important because most doctors are lazy and wildly arrogant. There's not mechanism for correcting these people, it's a broken system in a huge number of ways.
ramkitty t1_japcjdc wrote
Toe heavy posture and anterior pelvic tilt greatly contribute to vagus tension
Ok-Cut4890 t1_jaq1seh wrote
My posture issues go away when my intestines are working properly. I will subconsciously bend to compress my upper colon area (where the rib cage ends). I have no problem with my posture when I'm taking my medication. So for me, bad posture is a secondary symptom of the IBS.
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Anticode t1_jao6k7n wrote
I've been collecting microbiome-related studies as of late. The body itself - not just the brain or the mind - absolutely alters or even creates certain psychological states. Anecdotally, I've found that taking a couple of grams of GABA on an empty stomach is a way to evoke the way "body anxiety" feels, likely because the body overzealously pushes out the excess GABA , leaving a momentary shortage (localized to the neuron clusters in the gut because dietary GABA cannot readily pass the blood-brain barrier). The sensation is distinct and can be recognized, helping one overcome it by compartmentalizing it once it's identified.
Here's a relevant study relating to IBS specifically posted here a couple of days ago:
>New research establishes a link between irritable bowel syndrome and mental health challenges, such as anxiety, depression, and suicidal ideation --
>https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11845-022-03258-6
And semi-related:
>Regular use of laxatives is associated with more than a 50% increased risk of developing dementia --
>https://www.aan.com/PressRoom/Home/PressRelease/5048
Pinging /u/Ok-Cut4890 too.
Gloomy-Hour-9852 t1_jaosy12 wrote
100%. They can be correlated, try an elimination diet. Let go of allergens like gluten, soy, corn, dairy. Then slowly implement them one by one and see if any make a difference to your levels of anxiety. I’d suggest to do it for at least 10 days of none then 1 week add, one then see if you feel any difference.
Also, the brain and the gut are connected by the vagus nerve. What you eat makes a huge difference to what you think/feel.
haux_haux t1_jaok9o9 wrote
Dude, the UK care commissioning body recommends hypnosis for IBS. It's absolutely treatable for many people. You don't have to go that route.
MRSN4P t1_jasnk74 wrote
> Stress increases intestinal permeability and is involved in the pathogeny of inflammatory bowel disease (IBD) and irritable bowel syndrome (IBS).
> Vagal nerve stimulation (VNS) can improve intestinal permeability. Targeting the intestinal barrier through VNS opens new therapeutic avenues in IBD and IBS.
From a 2022 article Anti-inflammatory effects of vagal nerve stimulation with a special attention to intestinal barrier dysfunction.
Link: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/nmo.14456#:~:text=The%20vagus%20nerve%20is%20also,irritable%20bowel%20syndrome%20(IBS).
DrageLid t1_jav81my wrote
Do you have anxiety? If you have anxiety and your IBS is caused by your anxiety then you should try out The Linden Method. It cures anxiety and if you get rid of anxiety, then IBS should disappear too.
coffee_and_cats18 t1_jbnrvmh wrote
Interesting. Have you done this yourself?
DrageLid t1_jc8y9ff wrote
I haven’t done it, but I’m a member and everything they’ve said and told me about about anxiety, how it works, how it affects us, how to cure it, etc. makes perfect sense and is totally right. They just aren’t very big and can’t reach everyone around the world that needs help. I really want everyone to know about it, to know the truth, to know that that they don’t have to suffer, to get the help they need to recover from this awful condition and live fulfilling lives free from pain.
[deleted] t1_jan0ofk wrote
Take a xanax. Seriously.
I’ve been having crazy high blood pressure, and figured out totally connected to anxiety and stress.
Got a script for low dose of Ativan. I take that now and I’m 110/60
NoNumbersAtTheEnding t1_jaob8tf wrote
Yeah let’s not encourage people that we don’t know to take benzodiazepines. They are overprescribed as it is and we are on the verge of an epidemic.
I know you’re just trying to help, but I don’t know if this is the move
[deleted] t1_jazddec wrote
Very very low dose. Sorry. Like .125 twice a day.
Sorry not a doctor, not medical advice just personal experience but I would say don’t use propranolol for anxiety
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