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Biosphere_Collapse OP t1_ja0326b wrote

Plain language summary:

The study found that Chinese people have a good understanding of climate change and its causes, and think it is important to take action to address it. They mainly view the government, especially the central government, as being responsible for doing this, and support policy measures like carbon taxes and cap and trade. Additionally, individuals are willing to take action themselves.

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Sentsuizan t1_ja04tgs wrote

This seems like a weird way to say Chinese people know the truth of climate change

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CrossP t1_ja07q7y wrote

Replying to Sentsuizan (#2,004,844)

It includes extra data like which organizations should be working on it, accepting that money should go to climate conservation, and willingness to accept personal action.

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tornpentacle t1_ja0hu4m wrote

Replying to dark_LUEshi (#2,006,130)

Nice racism, really great look. Meanwhile, the entire US is just as polluted and a large share of people don't believe climate change is caused by humans.

Also, carbon pollution ≠ chemical pollution, just so you're aware...

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secret-squirrle t1_ja1efrx wrote

A red state that understands climate science! Let's keep it going, science, it works!

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Chii t1_ja1hzn8 wrote

Replying to pittopottamus (#2,009,621)

> meaningful policy change targeting the big dogs doesn’t also happen

not disagree, but any policy that costs more (such as carbon capture) would mean the costs passed down to the eventual consumers.

So ultimately, individuals bear the cost. What is needed is for policy to ensure all externalities are accounted for and paid for, and this requires gov't intervention.

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LapisRS t1_ja39800 wrote

Nice, very nice

I wonder if they know which country is the biggest emitter of CO2?

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woolcoat t1_ja43p2l wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#2,028,486)

Even if you’re conspiracy minded, China leads the world in EVs and renewable energy. If nothing else, that’ll make the more pro-believing in climate change to further push their leads in those industries.

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No-Level-346 t1_ja4az78 wrote

Replying to woolcoat (#2,030,425)

>China leads the world in EVs and renewable energy

So? They also lead in new coal powerplants.

They're a billion and a half people, they lead in many things, doesn't mean anything.

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LineOfInquiry t1_ja4ixif wrote

Replying to Chalkarts (#2,026,015)

The problem is not overpopulation. It’s how we use resources. We have the resources to safely support 10-12 billion people currently. The problem is that they aren’t spread out equally, and are wasted on frivolous or unnecessary things (eg single use plastics). I’m all for people having less kids, but forcing them to or killing people is not the answer. After all, we care about climate change first and for foremost for the negative impact it has on humans. We’re part of the environment, when the environment is hurt we are too.

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LordBrandon t1_ja4oqpw wrote

Replying to woolcoat (#2,030,425)

China leads the world in fossil fuel consumption. Including being the top producer and consumer of lignite, the dirtiest type of coal, and they are building new coal plants every year. China was the biggest emitter of carbon dioxide (CO₂) emissions in 2021, accounting for nearly 31 percent of the global emissions. Don't fall for their greenwashig.

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SuperNovaEmber t1_ja5vsc2 wrote

Replying to LapisRS (#2,024,760)

Historically?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1007454/cumulative-co2-emissions-worldwide-by-country/

> United States was the biggest emitter in history as of 2021, having released 422 billion metric tons of carbon dioxide (GtCO₂) into the atmosphere since the birth of the industrial revolution. This accounted for roughly a quarter of all historical CO₂ produced from fossil fuels and industry. China was the second-largest contributor to historical emissions, having released 250 GtCO₂.

> The leading carbon majors are all fossil fuel companies, with the top twenty polluters emitting almost 500 billion metric tons of carbon dioxide equivalent in the past half a century. This is roughly 35 percent of the global total emissions produced during this period.

But they want you to blame cows and engage in idiotic arguments about their farts or burps or their feels.

Jfc....

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Chalkarts t1_ja95gjm wrote

Replying to FwibbFwibb (#2,068,679)

Who said anything about killing anyone? Just don’t have kids. If people were responsible and being childfree were normalized instead of shunned, We’d be down by a few billion in a generation. Making more modern societal consumers on purpose is selfish and irresponsible.

You don’t have to kill anyone to depopulate. Just stop breeding.

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