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kafelta t1_j9ys580 wrote

A lot of folks think police officers have the most dangerous job of all, but it's statistically more dangerous to be in roofing, garbage collection, or warehousing.

We should have more respect for the people in these roles.

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bluddragon1 t1_j9zkv9z wrote

Somehow wage theft is bigger than all other types of theft, but I don’t ever see the people doing that arrested.

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AdvonKoulthar t1_ja1qkrr wrote

Thanks to an evidence based judicial system, taking physical objects will remain easier to prosecute and discover than digital numbers not being equal to other numbers

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RedCascadian t1_ja0oni3 wrote

Warehouse worker here. Essential just means expendable in our society. It's why I keep trying to persuade workers to unionize.

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28nov2022 t1_ja2iu21 wrote

Men are essential to running society yet are treated like trash. Like???

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RedCascadian t1_ja2tvdr wrote

That's a weird place to go. I work in an Amazon warehouse with 3k employees and I wouldn't be surprised if more of them were women. A lot of the highest performers, too.

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28nov2022 t1_ja2ufjl wrote

I dont know about amazon, but i worked in various factories in the 00s. I am always proud when i see women doing traditionally mens jobs.

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RedCascadian t1_ja2wusd wrote

It'd s lot of squatting and lunging with 35 lb or less items, so interestingly women's better leg muscle to body weight ratio would make them pound for pound more efficient.

They also seem to take better care of themselves and adopt better body mechanics faster (I train new hires and younstsrt noticing patterns).

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jnffinest96 t1_j9zjaxr wrote

Idk if its true but I heard walking across the street is more dangerous than being a police officer on a per minute basis

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Ere_bu_s t1_ja0sa14 wrote

That seems like statistic fuckery. For example, taking all the times anyone has been injured walking across the street vs. all the times any cops are hurt on the job and dividing by time.

But that doesn't account for the fact that way more people are crossing the street pretty much constantly and that traffic accidents in general are one of the highest sources of death and injury.

Also, while being a cop might not be as dangerous as working in construction (depending on where you're a cop) the danger of construction is environmental. Accidents. Machinery. Etc etc.

The danger of being a cop is actively antagonistic people who are out to hurt you. And traffic. Maybe less danger in quantity, but I'd say more dangerous in quality.

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asdaaaaaaaa t1_ja2n3uc wrote

>The danger of being a cop is actively antagonistic people who are out to hurt you. And traffic.

You can check the statistics via FBI publications on injuries for police every year. IIRC, more than half the injuries were from non-pursuit traffic incidents. Actual injuries from interacting with criminals/aggravated people were extremely low in comparison. Seeing how some police drive around here, doesn't surprise me.

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AdvonKoulthar t1_ja1qqh1 wrote

Yeah, plus police work isn’t just “chase criminals for 8 hours a day”

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asdaaaaaaaa t1_ja2mzcb wrote

Agriculture's a killer as well. Know too many people injured while I worked in that industry. With the bonus of exempt status, so agriculture businesses don't need to pay minimum wage, overtime, provide benefits for full time and a ton of other allowances.

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espressocycle t1_ja0ph62 wrote

Either that or occasionally let them murder someone with no consequences. I mean that could be a nice perk for some people.

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Cream-de-la-Peach t1_ja027n9 wrote

Where did you get police from this?

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Pushmonk t1_ja073ax wrote

It is an article showing how dangerous these jobs are. People often claim being a cop is the most dangerous job, which then excuses them for killing/beating citizens.

They were just bringing it up to make a point.

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Cream-de-la-Peach t1_ja0cobf wrote

But it’s about one specific industry?

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Pushmonk t1_ja0qldn wrote

Correct. They were making a specific point about something they find important enough to mention, because it isn't totally out of context.

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jtd1776 t1_ja0i4rz wrote

Police have the highest likelihood of being murdered over any other profession. There are certainly dangerous jobs with a high level of injury or accidental death but luckily OSHA and other oversight entities have regulations to increase workplace safety. If safety protocols are properly followed, chance of injury decreases. Most industrial accidents occur when the employee or the employer fail to follow proper protocol. So yes, statistically you’re more likely to be injured in a high risk profession like roofing, but the chance of being murdered or assaulted (which you have much less control of) is much higher in law enforcement than in construction industries.

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crazymoefaux t1_ja0rs88 wrote

A pizza delivery driver has a greater chance of being murdered on the job than a cop. This is verifiable fact, you can google this ("list of jobs by murder rate") and nearly every source will back this up.

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r-reading-my-comment t1_ja0v1su wrote

Give some info. I’m getting “delivery people” as being the highest, but that includes all delivery drivers… Dominos to Brinks.

Other sites are saying it’s cops or cops/security.

They also say law enforcement has the most general violence committed against them. Not dying because you have a bullet proof vest on skews the data.

Edit: how dare I say someone should back something up, especially after their advice failed

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DTFH_ t1_ja1j8df wrote

> They also say law enforcement has the most general violence committed against them

Did they compare themselves to healthcare workers? I'm sure behavioral health workers beats out law enforcement tenfold.

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crazymoefaux t1_ja11t5k wrote

Yes, I'm using "pizza delivery driver" as a general example. You should be seeing that taxi and delivery drivers are being murdered 4x more frequently than cops, yes?

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r-reading-my-comment t1_ja3e2yw wrote

Why are you championing the vagueness of your comment? By your rationale, cops should be lumped together with all security and first responders.

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jtd1776 t1_ja1nvsl wrote

According to the latest data available from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), there were 5,333 fatal work injuries recorded in the United States in 2020. Of those, 1,089 were homicides, which means that approximately 20% of all fatal work injuries in 2020 were homicides. This number includes police officers.

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), there were 614 fatal occupational injuries among delivery and other miscellaneous drivers in the United States in 2020. This category includes all drivers who are not classified as heavy or tractor-trailer truck drivers, but who operate vehicles to transport goods, make deliveries, or perform other similar duties. There is no specific number on intentional homicide of these people, who can be anything from Uber Eats, to Amazon drivers. Due to the nature of their job (driver) one can infer that most of their deaths likely resulted from a traffic collision or traffic incident.

According to the FBI's Law Enforcement Officers Killed and Assaulted (LEOKA) Program, which collects data on law enforcement officer fatalities in the United States, a total of 366 law enforcement officers died in the line of duty in 2020. Of those, 47 were feloniously killed, which means they were intentionally killed while performing their duties as law enforcement officers.

There are nearly we’re 3 million delivery drivers working in the US in 2020 according to BLS, and possibly many more unaccounted for freelance drivers working food delivery and other delivery services. There were approximately 700,000 police officers in the US in 2020.

I’ll let you do all the math, but I believe that sufficiently proves that police officers probably have a more dangerous job than pizza delivery drivers.

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r-reading-my-comment t1_ja3ebf8 wrote

Nah dude, we were supposed to lump other jobs together with pizza delivery. Didn’t you get the memo?/s

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jtd1776 t1_ja549fm wrote

I must have missed that memo. Apparently OP missed my comment too because I haven’t seen an apology or retraction on their erroneous claim after I provided up to date BLS data disproving their assertion. I expect nothing less from Reddit.

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asdaaaaaaaa t1_ja2n7lx wrote

Nope. Agriculture and other physical labor/trade jobs are inherently more risky/dangerous. You really think a cop is at more danger than someone who works around moving heavy machinery all day? Or someone who climbs/cuts trees for a living? You can check the actual statistics year to year, FBI publishes reports on police injuries. More than half are just traffic incidents when they're not in pursuit or actively "working" on something specific. Hell, delivery/truck drivers are at a higher risk than cops.

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