Submitted by marketrent t3_11bjl95 in science
Reply to comment by Fakarie in Workers tasked with moving products in the U.S. food and beverage supply chain are at a high risk of severe injuries and fatalities — Grocery wholesalers and grocery retail stores saw the highest number of injuries, followed closely by the warehousing and storage groups by marketrent
They absolutely are in any warehouse situation. Try running over your foot with a 2000 pound pallet or worse, crashing into an ankle, or getting a leg caught between the load and an obstacle. They may not be required by law in grocery settings but I can’t imagine why
They absolutely are not. They should be, but they are not.
You seem confident in your statement. Can you offer any evidence beyond ‘’my manger said I don’t have to”?
You want proof that something doesn't exist?
OSHA 1910.136 requires steel toe shoes protective footwear in a warehouse environment. When you have proof that something exists and someone is staunchly arguing that it doesn’t, I don’t see a problem asking them to prove their stance.
I work in a warehouse. Steel toe is optional. About 80% to 90% of employees wear sneakers. I wear composite toe so I can go through the metal detectors without setting them off.
We only send people home if they're wearing open toe or open back shoes.
So your warehouse isn’t in compliance with the above regulation. That doesn’t mean that the reg doesn’t exist.
The regulation doesn't specify steel toe. All it specifies is protective footwear.
What do you think protective footwear entails? It certainly isn’t sneakers as you stated above.
Your interpretation isn’t the standard
Per the reg, Protective footwear must comply with any of the following consensus standards: 1910.136(b)(1)(i) ASTM F-2412-2005, "Standard Test Methods for Foot Protection," and ASTM F-2413-2005, "Standard Specification for Performance Requirements for Protective Footwear," which are incorporated by reference in § 1910.6;
1910.136(b)(1)(ii) ANSI Z41-1999, "American National Standard for Personal Protection -- Protective Footwear," which is incorporated by reference in § 1910.6; or
1910.136(b)(1)(iii) ANSI Z41-1991, "American National Standard for Personal Protection -- Protective Footwear," which is incorporated by reference in § 1910.6.
1910.136(b)(2) Protective footwear that the employer demonstrates is at least as effective as protective footwear that is constructed in accordance with one of the above consensus standards will be deemed to be in compliance with the requirements of this section.
Do sneakers meet those standards?
I want to believe you.But I trust the multibillion dollar corporations have compliance figured out even if it’s not to my benefit
Yep. Why would a fortune 500 company not implement a policy that costs them nothing (employees have to buy their own steel or composite toe boots), when getting an OSHA fine for 100-400 people (depending on time of year) not following regulations?
Why don’t you post the actual rule
This is OSHA 1910.136. Nothing about steel toe boots being mandatory in a warehouse
“ General requirements. The employer shall ensure that each affected employee uses protective footwear when working in areas where there is a danger of foot injuries due to falling or rolling objects, or objects piercing the sole, or when the use of protective footwear will protect the affected employee from an electrical hazard, such as a static-discharge or electric-shock hazard, that remains after the employer takes other necessary protective measures.”
>“ General requirements. The employer shall ensure that each affected employee uses protective footwear when working in areas where there is a danger of foot injuries due to falling or rolling objects,
You might want do a bit more reading.
Can you explain what you think I misinterpreted?
You posted: OSHA 1910.136 requires steel toe boots in a warehouse environment
What is actually says: The employer shall ensure that each affected employee uses protective footwear when working in areas where there is a danger of foot injuries due to falling or rolling objects, or objects piercing the sole, or when the use of protective footwear will protect the affected employee from an electrical hazard, such as a static-discharge or electric-shock hazard, that remains after the employer takes other necessary protective measures
>What is actually says: The employer shall ensure that each affected employee uses protective footwear when working in areas where there is a danger of foot injuries due to falling or rolling objects,
Just look up interpretations of it online.
"Safety-toe footwear are shoes which have a steel toe cap underneath the leather toe cap and protect the wearer's toe from moving or falling objects. Safety-toe footwear needs to comply with the requirements and specifications of the latest version of ASTM F2413. Examples of work which require safety-toe footwear are: warehouse operations; moving operations involving heavy equipment; work involving close contact with large animals; and jobs requiring work with certain chemicals."
It specifies Warehouse operations needing Safety-Toe footwear, which is a steel toe cap footwear.
Ok, I have a couple of minutes now.
It says protective footwear, not steel toe. Which is why no open toe shoes or crocs on warehouse floor. In most situations, a leather shoe provides sufficient protection.
>n most situations, a leather shoe provides sufficient protection.
That’s not relevant. The only thing relevant to this conversation is what the reg requires. Based on what I’ve read in the regs, the following rating is required:
Impact resistance (I) for the toe area of footwear (50 foot-pounds)
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