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NugVegas t1_j8offut wrote

This is why The Govt patented a naturally occurring substance.

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dkran t1_j8p57z0 wrote

However they technically legalized the synthetic versions while keeping the naturally occurring illegal.

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Quamtotious t1_j8pdyax wrote

Actually they figured out a way to derive delta 9 from hemp, so you can now have the real thing, just synthetic.

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dkran t1_j8pe92q wrote

Not quite the real thing; the circus of cannabinoids is what makes pot appealing. Delta-9 is a small but significant subset.

It’s like the opiates vs opium comparison.

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Quamtotious t1_j8pes85 wrote

Delta 9 is the active chemical that gets you high. Most vapes are a straight extract unless otherwise specified. It is identical to a product on dispensary shelves.

If you want the whole kit and kaboodle, you can go significantly BEYOND the real stuff by mixing 8, 9, 10, d8thco, d9thco, CBD, and readd a terpene mix, that would be closer to your opiate/opium comparison.

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darkdreeum t1_j8pfwyq wrote

Agree with you here. I call these "connesseuir blends" and you can definitely snipe a specific high like this. I'd love to start seeing more d8 research though, I know that it functions with two receptors instead of d9's one, and in the past 6 months or so I've been experimenting solely with it over d9. It seems to me like some of the negative effects that come from heavy d9 use are not present in d8, or are lessened.

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dkran t1_j8pfl0z wrote

Secondary: I don’t buy vapes, mostly flower and prerolls. I get full spectrum or nada.

It’s not even worth it to mess with those “cannabis products” that are so limited. My wife does like CBD however

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cgnops t1_j8q6c4x wrote

The patent is not exactly on the compounds (or meant to make cbd exclusive or restricted to being a government product), it’s for a method to treat severe oxidative stress in the brain (such as what is seen clinically following stroke or heart attack), the compounds that they are using for this purpose are cannabinoids. The structures of the major cannabinoids were determined between the 30s to the 60s - that means the compounds are not new inventions and can’t be subject to being patented as an invention in what you linked (filed in the late 90s and granted in early 2000s). This is unlike other newly discovered drugs (synthetic or natural) that can be patented because they were previously not known. You can however patent a new unexpected use of some old compound, in this case protecting the brain following a stroke or a heart attack. In fact that is a way that companies have tried to keep their drug patent “evergreen” and extend their exclusivity, get it approved for new applications. Now, why is the process of getting a patent important, and not necessarily a bad thing? Because if you want a drug to be recognized and approved by the FDA and therefore administered by legitimate medical professionals with confidence to their patients, it needs to get patented for a specific use. Physicians can still prescribe things “off label” but it’s a physician and consumer confidence thing that a drug gets FDA approved for specific uses where it shows effectiveness as proven by rigorous, documented testing.

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