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Couldn't fit it in the title, but an interesting factor is that long-term ME/CFS patients had microbiota that looked like that of health controls. But instead they had metabolic alterations in their plasma - suggesting that changes in the microbiota may lead to long-term changes elsewhere. Also, correlation not causation, folks!

Link here: https://www.cell.com/cell-host-microbe/fulltext/S1931-3128(23)00021-5

Is it easy to get tested for this because I think I need too...

I'm convinced that scientists will eventually determine all disease comes from some form of bacterial imbalance in the gut or elsewhere in the body. But it will also be explained away because drugs provide better support to the monetary system long term than fixing the actual problem.

Stool test. There are ones you can send in by mail

Thank you I'm sorry for pawning the question off like this. I probably could have done the research. Just nice to hear from someone who already knows

And all the research that shows our artificial toxic environments, we created clearly effects our biological systems it’s just common sense that our biome is responsible for our condition.

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I am the Ancient Mariner.

We're over 20 years in. Probably too late to for us to tell. However, anyone reading this DON'T do what we did and try to carry on as normal, or keep up social engagements, or doing things that would be enjoyable but require efforts.

Convalescence, the real thing, in adequate doses, is still the best thing to give the body's systems time and energy to mend. Sensible everything. Diet, sleep, everything. Relapses multiply the problems. Other things get broken along the way.

Its like looking after your teeth, later is too late. listen to your body. If you're not normally a lazy person it's unlikely you've suddenly turned into one.

Toxins, in general, can be filtered out by healthy organs. Overwhelming amounts of toxins obviously overwhelm the natural systems and cause tissue breakdown.

The thing about imbalances in the microbiome is that toxins produced by bad bacteria on a constant basis inside the body become overwhelming.

Don't get too excited. There are many problems with those, including if you test from 2 different locations you get 2 results; test from same location but send to 2 companies, you get 2 results; the actual biome may not be the same as your results.

Toxins, in general, can be filtered out by healthy organs. Overwhelming amounts of toxins obviously overwhelm the natural systems and cause tissue breakdown.

The thing about imbalances in the microbiome is that toxins produced by bad bacteria on a constant basis inside the body become overwhelming.

So what do we do about this?!

I see new studies/articles every day attributing common diseases to poor gut flora. But I see almost nothing about ways in which this can be remedied?

Yes, eat healthy. Eat probiotics/prebiotics. What if that’s not working?

This is my question too

I need this test as well, I miss being as active as I used to be. I have a home gym but I simply just don't seem to have the energy anymore to do anything in it even if I try.

Poo transplants.

or just assume the gut flora is problematic and serve up people a course of poo transplants and conducive dietary changes.

>all disease comes from some form of bacterial imbalance

We know that not all diseases come from bacterial imbalance. There are, for example, viruses that cause diseases.

But it seems an important topic that it has not yet been used in practical terms. I hope that more studies like this bring tests and treatments.

I also hope that monetary incentives help and not hamper this kind of studies.

I advice you see an internist regarding your issues and they can then give you instructions which test is best to take, as there are a lot of different markers you can test for.

I don't understand what you mean

Certain good bacteria prove fatal to viruses and even fungal attacks.

For example, the bacteria on our skin kill food born pathogens like staph.

Human Skin Microbiome: Impact of Intrinsic and Extrinsic Factors

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An amazingly large portion of cancer, autoimmunity (diabetes 1, arthritis, MS, ect), and neurodegenerative diseases are linked to viruses.

Some of this is also linked to bacteria as well. However, it actually seems viruses may be the worse of the two.

Yeah, I know at least 2 people that got their hearts destroyed by a virus.

Aren't there bacteria strains that kill viruses?

Yeah viruses are really nasty. Some will yes to protect their host which is really cool. Look up the term virovore. It is really cool and I think the next breakthrough in antivirals.