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MlNDB0MB t1_j7l3hip wrote

The issue I have with this review and some other meta analyses is that they rely on old vegan cohorts, like Epic Oxford which started in the 90s. This predates the popularization of high calcium plant milks.

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RedditUserNo1990 OP t1_j7l9cqr wrote

Here’s a recent study showing the same thing. Data was up to 2019.

https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12916-022-02468-0

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Sculptasquad t1_j7ljphu wrote

Great study. It has none of those funny little oversights that the vegan lobby neglected when they drew a line of correlation between diary intake and hip fractures a while back.

The oversight being that they had compared rates of hip fractures in Scandinavia to that of China and concluded that "since hip fractures are more prevalent in Scandinavia and Scandinavians consumes more dairy...". Anyone reading this will of course realize that large parts of Scandinavia is covered in slippery ice half of the year, greatly contributing to the rate of hip fractures...

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RedditUserNo1990 OP t1_j7llao8 wrote

The thing is no one study can be conclusive, but a collection of studies at different labs or universities, from different researchers paints a picture.

That is the case here. There are many studies showing similar or same conclusions about vegetarian and vegan diets.

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RedditUserNo1990 OP t1_j7ntplj wrote

That is an additional study - it’s just one.

There are many more.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7924854/

This one supports the claim that diet is the culprit.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21092700/

There’s definitely enough evidence at this point.

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BafangFan t1_j7okz9d wrote

Vitamin K2 is crucial to move calcium from the blood and soft tissues into the bones - where it can make bones strong.

K2 is abundant in animal foods, but not in plant foods.

Also, a lot of the bone matrix is made of proteins - and proteins are more complete when they come from animal foods.

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bigtimephonk t1_j7kwg34 wrote

Does a review of existing research really qualify as new research? This looks like the equivalent of a grade school science student's book report.

We already know the mechanisms behind this. People who eat meat are heavier on whole, which increases bone mass. Vegans tend to be thinner, which decreases bone mass.

Stronger bones won't protect you against heart disease.

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