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DENelson83 t1_j7jil63 wrote

We will need to phase out capitalism first.

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jeffwulf t1_j7lpowi wrote

Based on trends in the countries that are phasing out coal versus building it out rapidly, exactly the opposite.

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DENelson83 t1_j7lwah4 wrote

But if we do not phase out capitalism, we are on the trolley track to human extinction.

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jeffwulf t1_j7m0bac wrote

Evidence suggests exactly the opposite.

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DENelson83 t1_j7m0l6b wrote

Yeah, what evidence?

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jeffwulf t1_j7m10ud wrote

Carbon trends in different economies.

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DENelson83 t1_j7m24ra wrote

So, you are saying that carbon emissions into the atmosphere are already slowing down? Last I checked, they were still accelerating.

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jeffwulf t1_j7m4mn7 wrote

US carbon emissions, measured by both consumption and production, peaked in 2005 and have been trending downwards since and are 20% lower than their peak.

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DENelson83 t1_j7mive5 wrote

Yeah, and what about the rest of the world, like, oh, I don't know, China?

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jeffwulf t1_j7mrcvg wrote

Yeah, Communist China is heavily investing in coal and it's state owned coal company is the single largest producer of fossil fuel emissions and is a good foil to what's happening in capitalist countries.

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