Potential_Limit_9123 t1_j7hh0fv wrote
Reply to comment by Centimal in A systematic review and meta-analysis has concluded that increased consumption of dietary carbohydrate intake is associated with increased risk of cardiovascular disease, stroke, and all-cause mortality. by Meatrition
It used 41 studies, which probably didn't control for sugar intake either. No one does.
AlexTayo t1_j7jakib wrote
Carbs is sugar. Whether its table sugar or brown rice…it eventually becomes the same in the body after it is broken down
WhnOctopiMrgeWithTek t1_j7jgah7 wrote
Absolutely not quite and that's a toxic way of viewing the world.
Whole foods with fiber tend to be healthy, table sugar lack nutrients, fiber, and spikes insulin + produces inflammation and has many negative effects on the body.
There is hardly an issue with consuming say, berries and mangoes.
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14sierra t1_j7jh607 wrote
Berries and mangoes are still loaded with simple sugars. Not as bad as candy but still not great. Complex branch chained carbs (think things like oat meal, whole wheat bread etc) are the least likely to cause blood sugar spikes and are generally the most healthy carbs you can eat.
dbanderson1 t1_j7jtuy3 wrote
Glycemic index; Any food that ranks under 55 is considered low on this scale and may be a better choice for people with diabetes. The GI of mango is 51, which technically classifies it as a low GI food.
The GI of whole wheat bread is 74 ± 2.
dbanderson1 t1_j7jtkfb wrote
Fiber is also a carbohydrate. So you think we should avoid fiber?
Does the body respond differently to a drink of 15 g fiber vs 15 g sugar?
traketaker t1_j7l7sbt wrote
Most fiber is insoluble. It just acts to carry everything through your system and clean you out. There are dietary fibers that do break down and are carbohydrates but that's a small amount. So it's a bad idea to just lump fiber as a carb.
"Dietary fiber is the kind you eat. It's a type of carbohydrate."
https://medlineplus.gov/dietaryfiber.html
"Your body cannot digest fiber, so it passes through your intestines without being absorbed much"
dbanderson1 t1_j7lif0j wrote
It’s made of carbon and hydrogen. It’s a carbohydrate. There are three main types of carbohydrates:
Sugars. They are also called simple carbohydrates because they are in the most basic form.
Starches. They are complex carbohydrates, which are made of lots of simple sugars strung together.
Fiber. It is also a complex carbohydrate.
I was making the point because the above poster was trying to argue that candy and brown rice are equally bad be abuse they are “carbs.” All carbs aren’t created equal. Brown rice has fiber and other important nutrients and overall drastically different physiological effects than pure simple sugar.
traketaker t1_j7lkxas wrote
Ya. Sorry. I agree with you kind of. It was just a weird statement bc it's irrelevant if it's a carb if it just passes through. Also I'm skeptical of the "all fiber is carbs" statement. I mean all plant fiber, sure. But for a mountain lion hair and bone constitute fiber and I don't think hair is a carbohydrate. Or if a human ate hair wouldn't that constitute fiber in fecal matter. You may be right, I'm not an expert
dbanderson1 t1_j7lrxly wrote
Hair is mostly keratin which is actually a helical protein.
Is interesting that while we don’t directly digest and breakdown fiber … our gut microbes do and in ferment them into short chain fatty acids which are also important for gut health. Having a masters degree in nutritional sciences I approach the question more in regards from the biochemistry of the molecule. If you revisit your nutrition facts label you will indeed find fiber as a sub component of carbohydrate. Under carbohydrate it lists dietary fiber, total sugars, and added sugars. Some products like cheerios list soluble fiber as well.
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