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ReachingHigher85 t1_j775b4f wrote
Dry food has no moisture in it, and includes lots of garbage filler like ash and other byproducts. Cats are desert creatures who have evolved with little instinct to seek distinct water sources. Most of their hydration would have come from prey liquids like blood. Without it, cats are slowly ticking kidney failure bombs. I have given mine wet food for years, and at 15 they both physically look no older than 4, kidneys in great shape, have been able to skip dentals for 2-3 years because their teeth have been in such good shape. One is getting a dental in 2 weeks because she may have a fissure in a tooth, unrelated to generic tartar build up. Vet broke a bit of tartar off the other with her finger and joked that was his dental for the year.
On the other hand, every other cat I’ve had was raised on dry food only and all were dead by 4-10, except 1. I’ve had many cats. Shame I was a child for most of them and had no control over how we fed them.
Elaphe21 t1_j77ek97 wrote
Vet and Ph.D. here...
I wrote a long response to this abstract, but as I don't have access to the entire publication, I elected to delete it.
I do not understand how this paper made it past peer review.
I suspect chatgpt wrote this (or 100 cats on 100 typewriters for 100 years...)
BTW, Canned food is generally better for cats, but (much) worse for their teeth (I can totally tell a 5 year old cat that is fed predominantly canned food based on the number of extractions they need).
brokerceej t1_j77ogz2 wrote
My 4 year old beautiful turkish angora just had 11 extractions last week. Fed only premium wet food his whole life. Vet told me the same thing basically. Continue to feed wet food and he will live healthier for longer, just take care of the teeth as best as you can ongoing and pull them as needed. 3 year old Calico that we picked up off the street as a stray emaciated kitten, fed the exact same thing, 100% perfect teeth.
Elaphe21 t1_j77p1fx wrote
>Vet told me the same thing basically. Continue to feed wet food and he will live healthier for longer, just take care of the teeth as best as you can ongoing and pull them as
I like to offer dry food on the side. A premium/dry food is not 'bad' for cats, just has limitations in regard to hydration.
I suspect it's not so much that can food is bad for cats teeth, but the dry food helps clean the teeth via mechanical action. This is just speculation on my part, however, they have done studies that show the piercing of the kibble by the teeth removes biofilm/bacterial growth from the enamel.
littlecuteone t1_j79t2o1 wrote
For a young cat, without existing dental decay, would they benefit from a combined diet of dry and wet food? For example, dry food in the morning and wet food in the evening, or vice versa? What about treats or toys that aid in cleaning the teeth?
mind_the_umlaut t1_j79wyx6 wrote
No, wet food is about the same for their teeth as dry but is far better for their overall health. I'd love to see a study, is there a link?
Laneylouwho t1_j7bckdj wrote
>or 100 cats on 100 typewriters for 100 years<
I literally came on here to tell old Tom to quit begging for food.
ThorDamnIt t1_j76qss2 wrote
Is wet food typically higher in protein? I wonder.
Jicd t1_j76vk7q wrote
Probably also has to do with water content. Cats don't have a strong instinct to drink water, and one recovering from surgery would likely be more hesitant to make a trip to the water bowl. Wet food helps cats stay hydrated better which provides a broad range of benefits.
much_longer_username t1_j7733gf wrote
More than likely. Dry kibble is terrible for cats, even the premium stuff. And then, most of the food is too high in phosphorous, so they get crystals in their urinary tract. I'm spending around a hundred bucks a month to feed my cat, and had I known all this before I got him, I probably wouldn't have. Cost me a couple grand in vet bills to find out, too.
ThorDamnIt t1_j79ex1f wrote
That’s a great point which I hadn’t considered.
mind_the_umlaut t1_j79wsed wrote
Dry food contains far too much starch; grains or vegetables, for cats.
Tetrylene t1_j779dz5 wrote
They should really rephrase the findings
Kibble impedes’s cats' abilities to recover from surgery.
Convincing owners to give their cats kibble is the biggest con job in the world of pet ownership. By the time it’s been heated to around 150° C and had all its nutrients removed it’s as healthy as cardboard. Not even considering the fact cat’s shouldn’t eat carbohydrates. Cats are obligate carnivores. They ONLY eat meat.
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lordlossxp t1_j78cmfc wrote
I feel like a cat wrote this
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bannedPosts t1_j77bvfl wrote
Any wet cat food is better than dry food - told to me by several vets. Next there is no such thing as a prescription diet -it's all hype. Sorry Hills. Dry foods : Think ultra-processing and its relation to poor outcomes in humans. Most house cats get very little exercise compare to free-range cats. If I take my cats out for a half hour - on leads - they sleep like logs for the rest of the day, they also tend not to fight nearly as much. Apparently just being out side, watching birds and stuff, really fires up their brains. Also, as noted by many others, water intake among house cats is relatively low compared to a wild diet. I keep four water bowls - all with wide mouths for my two cats. Each is changed daily. Cats generally do not like to drink out of clear bowls - well, mine don't. I use big cottage cheese containers and a large ceramic dog bowl for water. Five to six inch diameter seems to be the minimum tolerated. They also drink out of water buckets, aquaria *this is apparently the BEST, puddles, my water glass (which breaks the wide container rule), etc. The tricks with cat diets are getting them to eat, satisfying essential amino-acid requirements especially taurine, adequate water intake (clumping litter helps you visualize water intake) limiting carbohydrates (the main constituent of dry foods), high-quality animal fat (rancidity is a real problem), and controlling phophorus / phytates. My critters generally like Fromm wet / dry foods, and nearly any grocery store wet foods (Beyond is the current favorite) - although it makes me cringe to buy the junk. They all stink. The boutique brands at Petsmart and Petco - not so much. Keep an eye out for recalls too. While wet food might be higher in protein than kibble, the quality of the proteins is almost always better, and with bird and seafood fish diets it's more available. I stay away from farm terrestrial food sources on cats unless you can find a mouse diet. Cow, pig, lamb, not well balanced for cats. Freshwater fish, also not good food sources for cats. Soy is a kat-killer.
mind_the_umlaut t1_j79xae0 wrote
Try Fancy Feast classic pates. The Seafood variety is supposed to be the least stinky... post-processing, that is.
onairmastering t1_j78hhuf wrote
Ah, humans. This animal is ok to be enslaved, let's cut their gonads and feed them lab stuff because it amuses us.
Then let's buy a laser so we have fun and forbid them from actually being animals, what a degenerate, imbecile thing to do.
Bawbawian t1_j76o6kt wrote
I'm not saying this was written by cats but it really feels like it was written by cats.
oh yeah we get it wet food only hmmm.