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[deleted] t1_j4i5nm3 wrote

Long oven is truly the only one on that list that even comes close, and they would get one star, not more. Would also like to point out that Long Oven the food is extremely affordable for their tasting menu; you can walk out for under 400 for 2 people, not including wine; with wine and cocktails, you can easily get to 900 dollars, (but also they have affordable options for pairings as well) as stated by OP. But for the quality of food, service, etc that is an easy 900-1000 dollar NYC Michelin star meal with very few drinks.Maybe Alewife, maybe grisette, maybe L'Opossum, maybe shagbark. But those are a stretch. But out of those, Grisette and shagbark would be my top guess. All top choices for a Gourmand award tho.

Subrosa would definitely get a gourmand award.

No one exactly knows how they score, but there are 3 times a Michelin judge will visit the restaurant in a year. You never know who or when.The basics are Quality of Product, consistency, the Personality of the chef showing through the food, and mastering the cooking techniques.

Source: I worked in several 1-3 Michelin star places in NYC, along with being a CIA grad and 30+ years in the business.

Also, I would like to point out that getting nominated for a James Beard Award is NOT HARD AT ALL. For the most part, you have to submit something in writing during a specific time of year to be nominated (someone that does not work in that establishment). James Beard awards have merit when you win one, not nominated. But it is great to get nominated b.c. you cooked and severed someone good enough for them to write a bomb ass letter about your place.

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J-Colio OP t1_j4ilp5r wrote

Interesting context.

The first two chefs appear to have made it to the finals/semi finals of their contests. I assume that means much more than just the nomination? The third guy looks like he was only nominated or didn't make it far into the contest.

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[deleted] t1_j4iq9nx wrote

Sure making it further means more I guess.

Unless you are talking about top chef or some Other tv show, and that me something completely different.

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J-Colio OP t1_j4iqv4k wrote

No, of their James Beard awards. I don't think either actually won, but they made it far.

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[deleted] t1_j4ivdgg wrote

Yeah I mean it’s pretty cool bc the committee are actual people who really know food, so I’m sure it feels great to find out you got that far. I just feel like chefs sometimes use their James beard nomination as more than it is. People hear James beard and swoon, and there are so many given out, that to me it feels lackluster.

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Gamegis t1_j4j3qy6 wrote

Kinship was a pretty affordable Michelin restaurant in DC, I think we spent like 150 for two there.

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[deleted] t1_j4jr0qq wrote

Never been but heard it was good! Haven’t really had a chance to really check out DC, I’ve only been to rosés luxury and it was fantastic.

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NedDasty t1_j4sz7e6 wrote

Agree that Longoven is the only one BUT...they don't quite get a Michelin star. When they're on their game, yes, but they have too many misses. For the star you need a stellar experience every time. I've had a few amazing experiences there and a few good-to-great ones.

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[deleted] t1_j4t012q wrote

Fair assessment, I’ve been there a total of 5 times. 4 of them felt amazing but the last one service was lacking badly, food was still on point tho.

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