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ThrowawayAntelopes t1_iy69r6o wrote

Reply to comment by icecreamfist in No criminal charges for owner of pit bull that killed 88 year old woman by AphidGenocide

Lmao what? You ran into a lot of dogs that were not under control and therefore there are no dogs that can be kept under control? And it follows from the fact that dogs are animals that it doesn't substantially diminish their quality of life to be on a leash all the time? You're drawing absurd over-generalizations. I've had a lot of owners say the same thing to me, and they were all idiots that didn't know how to control their dog properly.

It's also pretty stupid to think that a 100ft leash is going to prevent a dog attack. If a dog can't be trusted in public off leash then they can't be trusted in public on a 100ft leash. There's no way you can actually react fast enough and with enough force to pull a dog back 100ft when an incident starts. But using a leash like this is logistically out of the question for so many reasons, it would wrap around everything and probably be more of a safety hazard (tripping, etc.) than just having a dog off-leash. Especially in the woods and in the river. A leash like that only makes sense if you're just trying to keep a dog from running away.

Anyway, I will always prioritize my dog's well-being over the precious and puritanical feelings of paranoids. (And there is no possible world where she meets her exercise and stimulation needs sniffing things on lead all day.)

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icecreamfist t1_iy69xvl wrote

I stated dogs should be leashed in public or non fenced in yard. Never said all the time.

But you're just showing you only care about yourself. Got it.

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ThrowawayAntelopes t1_iy6a49c wrote

No really, tell me, do you think a 100 foot leash would have saved this elderly woman? Or are you not an idiot?

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icecreamfist t1_iy6b72m wrote

I don't believe I've ever prescribed 100ft lunge line leashes as a way to prevent dog attacks. I merely stated lunge lines are an option if you must give your dog more line on a walk. I just pointed out they can even go up to 100ft.

But if the dog was on a leash and under the owner's physical control, certainly the woman would not be dead. Since, the only reason the dog stopped attacking the woman was because the owner physically moved the dog away. That is what a leash is really good for - to physically move your dog if needed.

Unrelated to this conversation, I'm most certainly an idiot. Ask my wife :)

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ThrowawayAntelopes t1_iy6bita wrote

In that case, sounds like we're in perfect agreement.

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icecreamfist t1_iy6c85y wrote

Yes, I think I hit a nerve here and I apologize. I think we may even be talking about completely different scenarios. You may be taking your dog off leash in a private giant field where no one is probably around, or a dog park designated for dogs running around etc where all participants expect and agree to dogs running off leash together.

Which is the opposite of what I'm talking about, which is trying to walk my dog down the end of the block.

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oh_hello_rva t1_iy7u225 wrote

Thank you, u/icecreamfist. You were the hero I needed today.

The entitlement is so strong in these people who want to put their preference / convenience over other human's and pet's ability to simply exist.

The worst part is that they still want to argue about it like it's up for debate, when it's the law and simply part of the social contract when you live in Richmond. If they don't like it, they should move somewhere that doesn't have leash laws.

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