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kilofoxtrotfour t1_ixqfagy wrote

It really emphasizes how most US Citizens are whiners & spoilt brats when it comes to employment. The majority of the world lives in poverty & defacto-slavery, yet we have people who have a meltdown because they can't telework & pet their dog now that COVID is "over".

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GandhiOwnsYou t1_ixqgtgu wrote

People can have valid complaints about employment at a variety of levels without declaring some of them “spoilt brats.” One person getting their leg broken doesn’t negate another person getting punched in the kidney, or a third person getting slapped in the face. Workers are mistreated and abused in a variety of ways in a variety of severities, and calling out employers for pointless mistreatment is how terrible jobs turn to shitty jobs and shitty jobs turn to ok jobs. You don’t just stop trying to improve things when you stop being literal slave labor.

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kilofoxtrotfour t1_ixqhbgv wrote

I was literally referring to the people on a few Reddit subs about the end of WFH, not legitimate labor issues. There's a difference in having a complaint about being stiffed on your tips, or being asked to work off the clock, and the boss taking away the free coffee.

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GandhiOwnsYou t1_ixqn9ry wrote

And I was literally calling out that stance as bullshit. I don't work from home, never have. It's impossible in my industry. My wife does however, since Covid. You're acting like telework is just "haha I can wear my sweatpants to work now." That aint it. Telework has had, in her industry, zero effect on the companies bottom line. None. ie: There's zero reason to undo it. What it has done, is given my wife 2 hours a day, 10 hours a week, 40 hours a month, 500 hours a year of her life back that she would have spent commuting. That's 20 days, if you want to do the math. 20 straight days in the car, for no fucking reason. It let us pull our kids out of daycare, and saved us around $1000/mo in childcare expenses, because our son can come straight home after school, and our daughter can stay at home all day with her mom instead of being pawned off on strangers. It means one of us doesn't have to take the day off if a kid is sick, because my wife is already home. It means I can work overtime if needed, because I don't have to cut and run exactly at 5 o'clock to get to the daycare on time. We were literally able to buy a house because of the extra income available after they confirmed WFH isn't going anywhere.

So quit your reductive bullshit. WFH isn't just a casual benefit, it's been the single biggest monetary and quality of life change our household has ever gotten, and it cost her company the grand total of... being able to lease a smaller office space? So yeah, I'd be pretty irate if they irrationally decided to yank everyone back in the office. It's literally improved every facet of our lives.

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kilofoxtrotfour t1_ixqpqhj wrote

WFH is great for some industries & professions, for others not so much. Did I say all WFH is bad? No -- if there was a way to WFH 911, I'd love that too. There's still no way to remotely cut the roof off a car.

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GandhiOwnsYou t1_ixqqekc wrote

Which is why First Responders would never have been put on WFH in the first place, and therefore wouldn't be those "spoilt brats" you're talking about that are complaining about it going away. You can dodge around and try to selectively identify "Most US Citizens" in your first statement down to one entitled worker in LA with no obligations who once tweeted about being mad she had to put pants on to go back into the office, but your original statement stands on it's own and you're not going to carve demographics off until you're back to being right about it.

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kilofoxtrotfour t1_ixquuzy wrote

You win - I get it. I thought this was the stark comparison between laborers in Qatar being run-over & killed by bulldozers on construction sites as "normal" and the minor whining of people having their WFH yanked or curtailed. No apologies, I don't really care about pleasing anyone on Reddit. Get back to me after you've watched a few people commit suicide or die over the holidays and then you can complain about your job. Over & Out.

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GandhiOwnsYou t1_ixqw8dp wrote

I'm an OEF veteran, try again if you expect that first responder guilt trip to take. And again, bigger problems existing doesn't make smaller problems not exist.

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