Lost Dog! Union hill area. She’s nervous but friendly and responds to the name Nola. If you see her/find her, try and grab her or call into animal control.Diet_Coke t1_irwdy8g wrote
Reply to comment by bigdaddyman6969 in Lost Dog! Union hill area. She’s nervous but friendly and responds to the name Nola. If you see her/find her, try and grab her or call into animal control. by Imadouchebro
lol this reply shows exactly what you're about, which is racism but with the thin veneer of directing it at pitbulls instead of their "low class" owners. Just like racists you probably have all kinds of flawed statistics to lean on, and just like with racists they're easily dispelled with about 3 minutes of research.
The CDC hasn't collected data on dog breeds wrt dog bites because it's essentially impossible to get accurate information.
TomJoadsLich t1_irwumzc wrote
Are you comparing black people or minorities to dogs
Diet_Coke t1_irwvm98 wrote
No, you'd have to be pretty braindead to get that message from my post. I am saying that breed discrimination is a stand in for racism, and the two share many traits. You can see from the post that I am replying to, the way OC classifies all pitbull owners as "low class" which is not even a dogwhistle, they're saying the quiet part out loud.
TomJoadsLich t1_irx1ms3 wrote
Eh. I agree with you that calling their owners low class is a dog whistle (no pun intended.) But dog breeds are bred to do things; acknowledging that fact is not comparable to racism. It rubs me the wrong way when people act like acknowledging retrievers retrieve, pointers point, shepherds shepherds, and my pitbull terrier will kill a rabbit in a heart beat if he was allowed to - is comparable to racism. It feels like you’re equating racism - which is completely unfounded - to acknowledging that genetics in dogs have an impact on behavior
Just to be clear - I own a pitbull and have owned a wheaten terrier
Seriously, I don’t see how equating the two is not actually more racist - you’re saying that black peoples and ethnic minorities are facing discrimination like dogs
Diet_Coke t1_irx2w2u wrote
Sorry but you're missing the point. Yes, dogs have been bred to serve different purposes and that this impacts the dogs themselves as far as their personality and abilities. However, discrimination against specific breeds is a stand-in for discrimination against the people who own them. Again, I would just point right back to that dog whistle.
However, there is a point that can be made here on genetics which is that even for a professional, visually identifying a dog's breed can be very difficult. My dog is half corgi and half mini poodle but regularly is misidentified a cairn terrier. If she were to bite someone and it was reported, it's pretty reasonable to expect that there'd be a report about a cairn terrier biting someone - even though she's not one.
There are also indications that a dog's breed only accounts for a very small amount of its behavior (source): "In particular, the researchers found that aggressiveness — how easily a dog is provoked by things that are frightening or uncomfortable — is almost completely uninformed by breed."
It is easy to draw similarities between discrimination against breeds of dog that is built on a foundation of bias and ignorance, and discrimination against people that is built on a foundation of bias and ignorance.
bigdaddyman6969 t1_irwg8aa wrote
Sadly the statistics are there and very clear. Especially for fatalities. Calling everything you don’t like racist seems like an exhausting way to go through life. Hope things get better for you.
Diet_Coke t1_irwjrru wrote
>Sadly the statistics are there and very clear.
Doesn't seem to square with:
>The CDC hasn't collected data on dog breeds wrt dog bites because it's essentially impossible to get accurate information.
(source)
>The CDC strongly recommends against breed-specific laws in its oft-cited study of fatal dog attacks, noting that data collection related to bites by breed is fraught with potential sources of error (Sacks et al., 2000). Specifically, the authors of this and other studies cite the inherent difficulties in breed identification (especially among mixed-breed dogs) and in calculating a breed’s bite rate given the lack of consistent data on breed population and the actual number of bites occurring in a community, especially when the injury is not deemed serious enough to require treatment in an emergency room (Sacks et al., 2000; AVMA, 2001; Collier, 2006). Supporting the concern regarding identification, a recent study noted a significant discrepancy between visual determination of breed and DNA determination of breed (Voith et al., 2009).
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>Hope things get better for you.
Don't project your miserable existence onto me.
bigdaddyman6969 t1_irwmbww wrote
Diet_Coke t1_irwn297 wrote
>That’s hard to say, because according to a new study, “unknown” tops the list.
Shut the fuck up.
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Diet_Coke t1_irwnmbb wrote
You're the mad one, and stupid to boot. Wow, what a surprise - too traits that correlate strongly with racism.
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