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gamerthrowaway_ t1_isxoahd wrote

> Like I feel like these things are tied to an overall worldview and are key components of a personality and those are things that fuel meaningful relationships for me.

I was going to make a quip about "yes, I am married" but then I got to this line. Just cause someone likes modern country music doesn't mean they are a bad person, it just means we have different rules about open air music playing or what happens in the car. When I did lots of stuff involving live music, I just went by myself cause they didn't have any interest in being in crowds or who was performing or anything like that.

The biggest things for a meaningful relationship for me is a significant overlap in core values regarding forward planning, kindness (not niceness, there is a difference), personal drive, conceptual thinking (or even more broadly but less of a metric, overall intelligence). A more distant fifth/sixth place would be broad political alignment, and value of children. A lot of that can be wrapped up in the idea of worldview, but I suspect you and I differ on what makes up that concept. It's really tough for me to invest a chunk of my (already stretched) emotional energy on someone if they deviate in multiple categories, especially that first set.

My spouse and I don't really share hobby interests (I have hobbies in music and gaming and painting, they in cycling, home crafts, cooking), we have very different Myers Brigs profiles (we share a T) and mine is strident at that... We're quite different people, but we share some foundational values; such as (but not limited to) we both share political views (even down to that 8 categories break out that Pew does), we are both driven, we're both kind (the whole east coast "baby needs a hat" theory resonates with us), but "nice" isn't usually an adjective attributed to us (especially me). I think it was Esther Perel who talked about "we are looking for someone who checks boxes for various needs we have at romantic/intellectual/social/etc levels" and my spouse checks more proverbial boxes (and the more important ones at that) than any other person I know. They don't check all of the boxes, but nobody does. We've been together for a long time.

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Pentakles t1_isxtn1z wrote

Thank you for taking the time to talk about the difference between nice and kind. I feel very much the same, especially as someone who also not given the 'nice' name often.

Don't expect me to coddle you over something pointless, but don't ever let me know you didn't have dinner. I will fight you to take care of you.

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gamerthrowaway_ t1_isxvka6 wrote

Exactly. I once heard it said that in NYC, people are kind, not nice. They will chew you out for blocking the side walk, but if your kid doesn't have a hat in January, they will give it their own (and then chew you out for being a bad parent). In LA, they are nice & polite to you, but will ghost you at the earliest inconvenience/time of trouble. It's an oversimplification and a stereotype, but there are elements of truth in it in my experience.

ninja edit: I once had a job working with surgeons. That's the only group of people I've met who (as a collective average) were both more kind and less nice than I am...

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Arcangelathanos t1_isy3po5 wrote

What is this baby needs a hat East Coast theory?

Edit: nevermind. I saw your response to another post and I agree 100%.

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