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RVAMS t1_its8azo wrote

Bad zoning is ubiquitous, not corporate greed consolidating land to make feudalism 2.0. I didn't know that every county in the country had their zoning boards call each other and decided they would all align their values. Quite the project.

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Fit-Order-9468 t1_itsmoji wrote

Right. It’s called segregation and has been around for a long time.

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plummbob t1_its8k07 wrote

Zoning is actually fairly consistent across the country and has been since Euclid.

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RVAMS t1_its9g1q wrote

The fucking problem is real estate investors snapping up properties to resell or develop for profit. Then costs of material go up so they sit on empty property until they can maximize profit, which is an affordance that small scale developers don't have - which is why it hasn't been a problem on this scale before. Blame it on zoning, but Euclid zoning has been around for 100 years and this is magically the first time we are facing this problem at this scale. Ignoring that different localities have different processes for changing zoning, permits, and several other variables which doesn't properly explain why this is happening all at once everywhere.

The problem is huge companies gobbling up everything and waiting to maximize profit. We have a ton of fucking land that can easily be developed but not without their say so because the cost of lumber and other materials hit an all time high, and the cost of weathering the storm makes more sense to them than developing and selling now and making less of a profit.

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plummbob t1_its9y8a wrote

Most of the usable land in the city is zoned single use, low density.

Building costs aren't the barrier to entry. 4plexes, townhouses, cottage or village styles are all viable, but the zonig code only allows them in a few select areas.

Investment is obviously not the problem.

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RVAMS t1_itsa6gs wrote

The city or every single metro area in the country?

The 100 largest landowners increasing their stake by 50% every ten years surely has nothing to do with this problem. Surely the ultra wealthy and multinational developers working in tandem have nothing to do with this issue so I guess I'll just blame it on checks notes zoning policy in every county in the country.

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rvafun100 t1_itsa1el wrote

Zoning is not the problem, such a weak stance

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plummbob t1_itsa7np wrote

It creates shortages that building costs don't justify.

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rvafun100 t1_itsagi7 wrote

It’s a common scapegoat for those like you who think the market is free

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plummbob t1_itsao3g wrote

We have a housing shortage not because we lack wood or copper, but because it's literally illegal to add more homes to the lots that exist.

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RVAMS t1_itsaygj wrote

So wait is it because it's illegal or the cost of development is too high I am getting confused now.

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plummbob t1_itsbffr wrote

Restrictive zoning makes most development illegal, and creates costly barriers to the development that does take place.... ie only allowing large scale apartment projects but keeping townhouses illegal

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rvafun100 t1_itsft5g wrote

Take a walk outside. Townhouses are illegal? LOL, walk around Hardywood…then over to Maggie Walker…plenty of 500k and up townhouses being built

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