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lunar_unit t1_jdg6coz wrote

Clearly, the police response to mental health events needs new policies that train them better to deal with these events. But in this case, it wasn't only a poor response to a mental health emergency, it was a virtual repeat of the police response to the George Floyd and Eric Garner situations (which weren't mental health events): overwhelming force that asphyxiated them and Otieno by applying pressure in one way or another that resulted in their deaths. The choke hold that killed Eric Garner almost ten years ago was already against police policy and they did it anyway. George Floyd's death almost three years ago was a clarion call for the nation that once again showed that police methods needed to change, and yet here we are again.

What the fuck is it going to take to make a real change?

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Danger-Moose t1_jdha7so wrote

>What the fuck is it going to take to make a real change?

If they're actually convicted that might be a start.

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thats_genocide t1_jdhi432 wrote

Just a head's up that during academy, Henrico Sherriff's Deputies already get focused mental health training, including 40 hours of crisis intervention training:

https://henrico.us/sheriff/training/

It amazes me that these idiots are still getting paid. I'm not sure why we need a criminal conviction to acknowledge that these seven deputies shouldn't be anywhere near the job they were doing. At least the Dinwiddie Commonwealth's Attorney is doing what's right.

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justbecauseiluvthis t1_jdhcf4b wrote

> What the fuck is it going to take to make a real change?

An incredibly strong black woman in the White House.

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ILayWood12 t1_jdhi46e wrote

Yes, a specific race and gender will solve all our problems lmao

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justbecauseiluvthis t1_jdhy3hz wrote

Someone whose cross sectional diversity gives them a perspective of how to fix systemic issues of oppression, yes, they have a better shot than old white christian men.

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Utretch t1_jdi50q5 wrote

Well we all know that after Obama got elected racists got a lot more chill, police brutality stopped, the security state was rolled back, things got a lot better, right?

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justbecauseiluvthis t1_jdi8ct6 wrote

I know that with Republicans in the White House and now controlling Virginia we've had a pushback on every single political issue we've ever had to fight for. I love how you argue against an imaginary candidate. Why don't you try thinking of better solutions for the world?

I think a Latinx or Muslim woman would certainly be capable of the job, thinking about strictly the numbers involved. It would take less than you probably think. The tide will rise eventually.

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lunar_unit t1_jdhieaq wrote

Politicians have mostly sold their souls by the time they get to the White House.

Obama was a charismatic person, a great diplomat and arguably one of the better presidents we've had in decades, but he also bombed the fuck out of Afghanistan, even after having antiwar stances early in his career and presidency.

'Top Cop' (a title she gave herself as prosecutor in California), Kamala Harris has always been a 'law and order' politician who did very little to reform policing in California when she was in office there.

It's been said that one of 'the solutions' to better policing in America is to have a more diverse police force, but it seems that cops are cops; most of the people involved in Otieno's homicide were Black, and the cops who killed Tyre Nichols were all Black; it made no difference in how the victims were treated.

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justbecauseiluvthis t1_jdhyl4u wrote

That's why I said incredibly strong. The opposite of Trump, she can shoot from the hip on the can and make actual change (like obama promised.) She should give no fucks for the right wing.

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