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NoRepresentative5593 t1_j69f2jf wrote

You’re really good at moving goalposts, that’s not a quality skill lol.

No bitterness here - I think good food should be judged separately from narcissist owners. But I won’t support toxic people or their businesses. Just an FYI for you - these traits rarely get better over time, they just get worse as the stakes get higher. The owner should be seeking professional help to avoid the eventual fall.

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FrutaFertil t1_j6ba2tu wrote

But see, all over this sub and even in this thread, people are pretty willing to separate the art from the artist for a guy but not for a woman. You say you do and then you put a “but” right after go negate everything you just said. The food must be good if it’s getting this recognition. She has two teams working at two places so there’s that too, people work with/for her and if she was the worst, she wouldn’t be able to put together a team. I’ve heard bad things about many many other chefs this sub loves. So in my view there is clearly a double standard and as other commenters have pointed out, it comes off sexist. As a woman I am bothered.

Ultimately I don’t know how “high stakes” the world of bagels might be to drive this lady into batshit insanity. Maybe we see it happen and everyone can have a laugh. But the title of this thread and the interest it has generated makes me think she’s winning the game on the haters.

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