Submitted by SwimmerNos t3_y9kvy1 in providence
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Reeceologist t1_it6gesc wrote
Tax colleges for students living off-campus instead.
sonickid101 t1_it6rbm1 wrote
This proposal would do the opposite of relieving pressure on housing stock. It would artificially juice demand by not allowing sharing of property. If she really wanted to relieve pressure on housing stock she would propose repealing zoning laws and regulations that make it cost-prohibitive to create more housing increasing supply thus reducing cost.
RandomChurn t1_it6sjh1 wrote
This was talked about years ago. No way will it pass.
missiemiss t1_it6tzjn wrote
Like college doesn’t cost enough! Now adults can’t even live in apartment just because they are in college?!?
fishythepete t1_it6yuuw wrote
This doesn’t displace students. It would be far more likely to displace locals as students demand more units housing.
>In all honesty to make a proposal of this nature is downright negligent and ignoring the real problem at hand which is rent control.
Providence doesn’t have rent control?
saucyname t1_it71jr3 wrote
I’d rather all the college kids live together instead of spreading their bullshit across more buildings. Not that all college students are bad, but I lived above kids who were kicked out of a frat house and since they couldn’t go back there our building became their frat’s 2nd location.
jacobwojo t1_it73y9h wrote
They did a similar thing in Narragansett with URI. Making a “no more then 3 unrelated per house” rule. Although I think it recently turned over in court so it no longer applies.
Ristray t1_it756kw wrote
Rhode Island itself doesn't have rent control.
FunLife64 t1_it75rd3 wrote
I doubt this goes through, but I kinda get it. There was a house that was recently renovated near me - into two 6 bedroom apartments (which is basically a dorm). That basically takes that property offline if you aren’t a college student in a neighborhood that’s actually not a lot of undergrads. There’s also these “Airbnb” type of rentals for students where you rent just an individual room and share a kitchen. That’s also a glorified dorm. Renovating residential properties to these configurations only makes it worse for non-college students looking for housing.
MyStackRunnethOver t1_it76zoh wrote
>which is rent control.
Which is insufficient housing
Proof-Variation7005 t1_it77q23 wrote
That definitely can and does happen. I'm not sure what percentage of homes are like that but I think there's probably a better way to limit that by maybe some limit on that kind of renovation being done going forward?
Jerkeyjoe t1_it79i4b wrote
The person who just bought my building did this and I'm pretty pissed off about it. The amount they're getting from them is mind-blowing . I'm sitting here in my studio apartment thinking, I'm gonna have to move aren't I?
Jerkeyjoe t1_it79ngk wrote
Yeah but people will do it anyway
Thick-Error-6330 t1_it7abne wrote
This is not good
AbigailFlippinfloppn t1_it7al6a wrote
Stop saying that. There are more vacant homes than homeless people!
SwimmerNos OP t1_it7gelk wrote
Nope. A new landlord acquired the apartment my partner and I rented. This man didn't even live in PVD and owned 4 other apartments around the city. In the first year he increased the rent by 47% without making any improvements and also replaced our shared laundry and drying machines with machines that weren't only older smaller but also increased the prices.
Motherhoodthings t1_it7hgmp wrote
Is there any rent control anywhere in the US?
crispyfunky t1_it7jfve wrote
This is so fucked up especially for international grad students who choose to live together because they need a social circle just like any normal human being
NOT_So_work_related t1_it7ojf9 wrote
No more than 3 college students living under one roof...
So those triple-deckers would only have 3 people in them?
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MyStackRunnethOver t1_it7qdoy wrote
Homeless people are not the only ones demanding housing. So are all the people who would like to live in Providence but can’t afford to, the people living in Providence with parents and roommates who would like to but can’t afford to move out, and families who would like to move into a bigger place, but can’t afford to upsize
The rental vacancy rate in RI overall in 2021 was 2.8%. That’s likely lower in Providence itself. A healthy rate is usually ~5%, below which rents tend to rise. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/RIRVAC
All of the classes above benefit from cheaper, more available housing. The way to make housing cheaper is to build more of it
AbigailFlippinfloppn t1_it7tcpf wrote
Or ban rent seeking, ownership of a non primary residence (second/vacation homes), and corporate ownership of residences🤷♂️
Ya know, actually change things?
AltruisticBowl4 t1_it7vhxb wrote
NYC has a lot of rent controlled apartments.
Proof-Variation7005 t1_it7w3sd wrote
Sure, but that logic could be used against every law that has ever existed or will ever exist.
Motherhoodthings t1_it7w9jg wrote
Ahh I see. I didn't know that.
ovary-achiever t1_it8adz1 wrote
How could this possibly be enforced? 🙄
DiegoForAllNeighbors t1_it8ag8x wrote
I do not support this ordinance. At all. In case anyone was wondering.
FunLife64 t1_it8f866 wrote
Yeah also I love that people whine on here all the time about rich and spoiled RISD, Brown, etc. but then are those poor college students about this
relbatnrut t1_it8jv15 wrote
>In all honesty to make a proposal of this nature is downright negligent and ignoring the real problem at hand which is rent control.
I hope you mean lack of rent control
fishythepete t1_it8ll4u wrote
No, I’m saying rent control cannot be the problem, because it doesn’t exist.
If you think lack of rent control is the problem, you need to take a minute and understand that rent control and limits on occupant numbers are solutions in the same vein - ie they’re not.
fishythepete t1_it8lo8y wrote
Right. So rent control is not the problem.
MyStackRunnethOver t1_it8nuzp wrote
I don't disagree that reforming property ownership would make it so that investors (of various sizes) can't take advantage of housing scarcity to earn obscene rents.
However, even doing that still doesn't solve the problem of housing supply-demand mismatch. When housing construction lags population growth for decades there is going to be scarcity no matter what - and that lag in construction is thanks to decades of local, state, and federal support for discriminatory zoning and inefficient property tax policies, fueled by racism and classism.
The landlords are just riding the wave which our governments and zoning boards have prepared for them by attempting to freeze our cities in 1965.
With a sub-5% vacancy rate, if prices fall by half overnight, everyone who currently can't afford a home just won't be able to find a home. The good news is that fixing the supply side lowers prices, takes away those massive rents, and along with them the incentive for rental conversions and speculative purchases.
factsrlazy t1_ita7aqu wrote
So dumb and would further drive up the cost of housing
upinsmoke003 t1_itagv1d wrote
Dumb and misplaced. Without the colleges Providence would be a dump.
SwimmerNos OP t1_it677wy wrote
I for one have to say this is the most ridiculous proposal I have read. To treat the student population as anything less than standard citizens is down right discriminatory. The fact that this is sweeping across Brown, RISD, PVD College, and Johnson and Wales is going to have severe and adverse effects on students who already struggle to find affordable housing while trying to pay for school. The council woman says this is help with the housing stock problems but this creates no new dwellings, this only displaces a whole demographic who rely on this housing due to proximity to their respective colleges and universities.
In all honesty to make a proposal of this nature is downright negligent and ignoring the real problem at hand which is rent control.