Proof-Variation7005 t1_jdf0eh9 wrote on March 23, 2023 at 10:34 PM

Reply to comment by Dopey-NipNips in 2 dead from reckless Dirt Bike riding on city streets by Flashbulb_RI

Long-term, unless we're going to heavily restrict or outlaw the sale and posession of these vehicles, coming up with a place or a way for it to be done legally and safely is really going to be the only way the illegal and dangerous use goes down.

There's a ton of roadblocks to getting to something like that happening and nothings foolproof, but I don't think we're going to magically make ATVs disappear without trying to tackle the problem that way.

Dopey-NipNips t1_jdf1fx7 wrote on March 23, 2023 at 10:41 PM

Yes that's exactly what I'm talking about! We don't have a mx track or anything for young men living in a difficult time who are looking for a dopamine and adrenaline rush

It's not like you'll ever stop young men from doing dangerous stupid shit so maybe we don't have to be the only state where you can't do a little off roading on a bike

If there was a place where you could ride but HAD to wear a helmet and back armor then fewer people would be hurt and killed. Including the people who catch an ass whooping because they happened to be driving their car near these kids

There's no downside and it's stupid that it's not available

Proof-Variation7005 t1_jdf2is4 wrote on March 23, 2023 at 10:49 PM

Even a program where you can ride them on streets with certain safety gear and obeying traffic laws and what not would help too. Enforcement based approaches will only go so far and we've already seen it backfire multiple times.

Dopey-NipNips t1_jdf3jrh wrote on March 23, 2023 at 10:56 PM

There's not nearly as much fun in that. Part of the appeal is that it's dangerous outlaw tough guy stuff.

I'm an adult and there's guys in every group who push the limits and do dumb shit on an otherwise legal ride. Speeding and wheelies and weaving

Let em do it in the dirt and make them wear all the gear and do badass outlaw stuff somewhere there's no civilians and an ambulance nearby

It couldn't hurt

I'm really passionate about this idea because this 100% could have been me and will probably be my kids if I don't give them an outlet

I have a shitty beater bike I let the kids at work learn on in the parking lot at work. I bet all of them go and do something retarded when they get their own bike, have a bad accident like all of us do, and then get a full dresser old man bike when it's out of their system

fishythepete t1_jdgbnj8 wrote on March 24, 2023 at 4:38 AM

Alternately try nutting up and doing what people who like to play with guns do. Start a club, buy some land, and make and take ownership of a place where you can do your dangerous shit without hurting people just trying to get through the day. Imagine if gun owners were just setting up target practice in the streets because “there’s no place to go.”

Shit there’s a place open in Richmond now, but you gotta pay $40 and not be an asshole - probably too much to ask of these fine folks.