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Submitted by [deleted] t3_10m5ulx in pittsburgh
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Police can't do anything about that it's private property. Blackout curtains are your only option
Do you want to have a drawn out, lengthy and possibly expensive fight, that will ultimately end up with the state telling you that they can do on their property what they want to do, or, would you like to spend a couple hundred and fix the issue inside your house?
Rocks
I'm pretty sure there are laws or ordinances against having security cameras surveilling people's private property. I wonder if security lights illuminating other's properties would or could fall under the same...
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Sounds like they likely just want to complain/vent. Your answer was more than sound.
Get a group of those no good very bad teens everyone has been complaining about and put their shananagains to good use
311 or pgh311 on twitter
The city has light pollution ordinances - I would check with 311
You can report via 311. There are certain aspects of the lights orientation that can be adjusted, maybe, to reduce the throw. If you choose 311 they will likely be served with a notice of violation and have to examine corrective actions.
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Bb gun
the one I'm finding via google is only for city owned property - is there anything else?
The best option would be property damage, but apparently that's frowned upon. So appealing to the government to do the bare minimum would be the second best option I guess
Op could engage in civil disobedience and dim the lights themselves...
They're not, but if underpaid, overworked, undertrained civil servants don't bother to go out and enforce it, call Budget Blinds or Automated Shade (you need shades and side... shield things to fully block out light - curtains always leave gaps above and to the sides).
I have had this happen twice with different signs as I live behind a shopping center.
I don’t know if there is some kind of burn in time before they seem dimmer or if I just got used to them, but after a month or so it wasn’t bad anymore.
It would be bullets and not rocks. :[
There should be a shroud on the lights to keep horizontal light pollution to a minimum. No need to light up the sky, should be reflected downwards…. Should be an easy fix for them if they feel like being a good neighbor….
Try your council person.
Rent a large search light and aim it at the parking lot when they have their meetings. Do this for every single meeting until they relent and compromise.
Have you already tried walking over and talking to someone at the building? If the lights are new, they might not be aware of the offending light pollution. In my experience, most people want to be good neighbors. You might even get a faster resolution going direct instead of trying to get the city involved.
Make friends with an electrician. Would take me like 2s to disconnect it.
Found using Twitter works the best.
I would definitely start here, OP. They might be quite amenable to changing the angle or something like that. Most people are willing to work with others when approached in a non-threatening/friendly way
I think this may be right. Last year the building switched out the lights in my office and it was like the Kenny Rodgers Roasters Seinfeld episode; totally blinding. Now it’s perfectly fine. I think I’d feel differently if it was behind my house though.
There's prob a building manager. You may want to look up the property on the county real estate website and see who actually owns it and contact them if it isn't the business itself.
Eh. You may call batman by accident instead.
Even better he may be able to assist.
Blackout curtains
Good point
They can't, they'll have a nuisance lawsuit. Anything another property owner does that inhibits your enjoyment of your property (insanely bad smells, blinding lights, constant machinery running) makes them liable. If 311 doesn't help, that might be the next course of action.
I like this idea
Thanks! Interesting ordinance appreciate you locating it
Pellet gun..
teachers are whats ruining this country
Wow. That's interesting. I wonder if that only applies to the city, like would that extend to surrounding areas/suburbs? My Boro installed offensive LED street lights that light up the inside of my house at night! I can no longer have darkness while I try to sleep in my own house. They were very proud of themselves for installing these "energy saving lights that will deter crime". Meanwhile I worry that not having darkness in my house to sleep will have an affect on my and my family's health.
General rule of thumb… if you don’t vote for the Pittsburgh Mayor… the Pittsburgh ordinance will not apply to you. You would need to contact your boro or township.
You could express your concerns to your neighbor instead of immediately reporting them to the boro or township.
Right, thank you. That's what I thought regarding the jurisdiction part of it. And just for reference it's not a neighbor in my case, it's the actual street lights that the Boro installed. But thanks for the input.
I’d download the MyBurgh app and file a 311 report. You can attach photos so you can show them just how awful it is.
Or something a little more powerful:
BB gun
Have you tried walking over there and talking to them?
Get a grip
I've tried the same thing with the apt building across from our house. They were installed by Mozart about 2 years after we bought our house and they shine all the way up to our third floor. The city has done nothing..
Bb gun.
r/darksky might have some good advice
have you tried walking there in person and speaking with someone?
its reddit...you think someone would interact with a human and confront someone about something that is bothering them?
Agree. The city inspectors office it pretty much useless.
Was thinking Kramer with Kenny’s Chicken.
Most municipalities have ordinances posted on public websites, so if you can find the specific statute, you can cite it to them when requesting them to remove or re aim the light. For city owned lights (anywhere), they'll usually remove it or move it to a different pole.
So, good news and bad news. In the code under "Residential Compatibility Standards," it says this:
916.07 - Lighting
All lights used by development that is subject to
Residential Compatibility Standards shall be arranged and controlled so as to
deflect light away from any lot that is zoned RSD, RSA, RT, RM, or H. Any light
or combination of lights that casts light on a public street shall not exceed
one (1) foot-candle (meter reading) as measured from the centerline of such
street. Any light or combination of lights that cast light on a lot zoned R1D,
R1A, R2, R3, RM, or H shall not exceed 0.4 foot-candles (meter reading), as
measured no more than three (3) feet inside the lot line of a lot that is zoned
R1D, R1A, R2, R3, RM, or H.
That's the good news. They are not allowed to do that at all. The bad news is, its a PITA to get PLI to enforce RCS. Start with 311, though.
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We had as similar issue. We went through 311 but in the end the City said that they couldn't verify the violation because they don't work past normal business hours. Go figure. We even provided photos and cited the specific ordinances.
Going to our councilperson was the way that we actually got some resolution.
They ain’t going to do shit to the teachers union. I suspect you’ll be audited for reporting it.
Public education is what made this country "great" for you numptys that want to make it "great again."
How good is your aim?
totally joking. i’m a teacher in the north hills…
Poes law
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Blackout curtains.