Submitted by Emergency-Ad-4671 t3_zxrqjr in pittsburgh
kitsandkats123 t1_j24mcb1 wrote
i’d cringe every time i heard “ruining” being pronounced like “coin” but with a “r,” so i can’t blame you for being bothered by that. my uncle has a heavy pittsburgh accent, to the point where i can’t decipher what he says at times, but he doesn’t pronounce it like that.
the way she pronounces “of” seems normal to me. however, i saw that you said it is more of an “awv” sound and now i can’t stop think thinking it is pronounced with a british accent.
anyways, i do think it is weird to be bothered by a lot of this. i went to pitt main, and not many people who go to pitt are born and raised in the inner city, with family who never left the historic neighborhoods (aka heavy accents), and when they would make a point over how i spoke or what i said, i would feel embarrassed. then, i’d get pissed off thinking about how they aren’t even locals and telling a local how to speak (this is petty and i’m aware). if you understand what i’m saying, why does it matter if i pronounce the way i was taught? unless she’s asking you to help her pronounce it another way or the way she does is blatantly wrong, why bother trying to change it?
i don’t think this is pittsburgh related, but i pronounce pattern like “pat-ter-in.” it is supposed to be pronounced like “pat-tern,” yet no one tries to correct me because who cares?
i’m also curious as to why you are trying to “recover” from your accent? i’m assuming you teach in the city or one of the suburbs, so what is the point of “recovering?” i’m genuinely curious and not trying to be snarky here.
Emergency-Ad-4671 OP t1_j24p001 wrote
Just a joke and not trying to actually recover. To be honest, I was just trying to speak correctly to teach my students correctly. I actually noticed this because I was reading an excerpt to them and the sentence said, “Are our children…”. I’m standing in front of them going “AHR AHR children” like a damn pirate. Started to realize I say many things incorrectly such as: pull, pool, and pole. I say them all as “pull”. I honestly only watch how I speak when teaching; otherwise, I wouldn’t notice these things.
People took this so literally like I hate my mother for her accent. Clearly I have it, too! Guess this was more of a question of how to pronounce ruin and now I am ashamed I am working class and have an accent because Reddit came for me (from people who don’t have true yinzer families).
kitsandkats123 t1_j26quqa wrote
i’m definitely one of the people who took everything you said literally, and i apologize about that! i’d like to believe most pittsburghers aren’t classist considering this city is famous for its working class history. most natives i know come from working class and still are, i personally just interpreted your original post incorrectly.
also, i refuse to believe there is a difference in “pole” vs “pool” vs “pull,” as well as “are” and “our.” everyone else in this country is wrong; they are all pronounced the same. no one can convince me otherwise.
Emergency-Ad-4671 OP t1_j26rlvo wrote
No need to apologize. You explained yourself and even said you weren’t being snarky! I totally agree that there is no difference in those words. I can’t stop won’t stop. Told my students one time how we all say it the same. It was hysterical the whole class is going “pull…puuulllll…pul”. “Our” and “are” are seriously the hardest for me. So is “tile”. I said “floor tahl” in college and my roommate was from Harrisburg. Genuinely she was concerned for me. Didn’t even notice
WoodpeckerFar9804 t1_j26wld7 wrote
I notice a lot of people say ‘roon’ or even ‘run’ for ruin. ‘Yinz better take dem shoes off atda door or yoool run the floor I just red up’
KentuckYSnow t1_j24pxiz wrote
Not all locals talk with the accent, especially if they didn't grow up in a blue collar neighborhood with millworkers as family members. The accent is pretty rare in higher income families.
Emergency-Ad-4671 OP t1_j24rpbz wrote
You are right. My parents are both very blue collar and from a long line of immigrant/steel mill workers. I’m proud of it! Can’t deny that in our day in age that WE (millennials/Gen Z/Gen X) cannot walk into a professional situation and start saying THE STOCKS ARE DAHN, DEM RAIZES ARNET COMMIN, OPEN UP YER COMPUTER. BE CAREFUL, THE FLOOR IS SLIPPY. I NEED TO GUMBAND THESE FINANCE REPORTS”.
Like, yes, you can say those things and fck em if they make fun of you, but in reality, we can’t full on yinzer in every situation.
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