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YeahIveDoneThat t1_j29xani wrote

Reply to comment by FuzzPunkMutt in [Serious] What can be done to stop the Clairton mill? by NickySmithFromPGH

Yeah, I don't think those people ever make it to the main dance though.

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FuzzPunkMutt t1_j29xpsz wrote

"best represent" is not "perfectly represent"

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chefmarksamson t1_j2adldo wrote

No, but there’s a point where “best represent” is so far away from what you’d actually like to support that it’s severely demoralizing, and leads people to question the efficacy of the entire thing. Continually telling people the solution is to vote, and vote, and then keep voting isn’t wrong, per se, but it is glib, and can turn off people whose problem is disaffection, not apathy.

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FuzzPunkMutt t1_j2azx04 wrote

So suggest something better.

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chefmarksamson t1_j2bqv4o wrote

I feel like you’re missing the point. I’m giving one possible reason why a lot of people feel that the electoral process doesn’t represent them and doesn’t seem like something that they can meaningfully have an impact on. I’m not trying to argue that there’s a better way. I’m just saying that preaching to people about voting probably isn’t having the effect you’d like it to.

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FuzzPunkMutt t1_j2bss09 wrote

I'm fully aware of it. I think everyone is.

The problem is that people, you included, are very, very quick to say the same thing.

"But Voting Didn't INSTANTLY Fix All My Problems!"

Yeah. We all know. There's some 50% of the population that varies between selfishly hating change and being straight up regressive - those people aren't going to magically go anywhere.

So my response to you, and everyone saying this, is... PLEASE, if anyone knows of something better LET ME KNOW.

Fucking hell, I am totally open to a better solution! I even buried the voting thing in between two other things, because I know it's not a good solution.

Right now, in these united states, it's the most powerful option we have, though. So let's not get caught up in disparaging it.

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Extreme_Qwerty t1_j2c0fgb wrote

Politicians are like a zit.

You only get something out of them if you pressure them. HARD.

It's a gross analogy, but it's accurate.

When I worked for a member of Congress, he'd always ask how the mail and calls were running.

The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

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Neither-Camp-1352 t1_j2d2gfn wrote

Corruption prevents the functioning of our republic. We need a purge of current career politicians, term limits, and a reigning in of the federal reserve.....which representives which have a meaningful chance of winning are representing these ideals?

All I've heard is 1 party wants to cut kids dicks/ tits off as children and the other party wants to make children birth their own incestuous grandchildren.

I'll pass on both of those options thank you very much

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FuzzPunkMutt t1_j2dc8gy wrote

I’m actually super glad you don’t vote since apparently you can’t even do basic research into civics or social issues.

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