Submitted by Tomofpittsburgh t3_z25wu7 in pittsburgh
chuckie512 t1_ixfinqx wrote
Reply to comment by Ordinary_Pain1848 in Seasons Greetings from our friends at US Steel. by Tomofpittsburgh
Yeah, my suggestion is for us steel to move into the 21 century and use electric arc mills, or shut down.
We pay more in excess healthcare than USS provides to the community. We could save money as a community paying all the steel workers to retire.
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Ordinary_Pain1848 t1_ixfkt6w wrote
If it was that easy, USS would have shut Clairton and the corresponding plants years ago. The reality is that these 3 Mon Valley plants are US Steel’s cheapest cost per ton producer of steel in the company’s portfolio. Even cheaper then the new state of the art Big River Steel at Osceola, AR.
It being cheaper to pay for the steel workers healthcare by forcing the plants to close vs it being open is not realistic. Take away the tax base Clairton Coke Works provides and would the city be able to survive without falling back into Act 47 dependency from the state?
Braddock is still in Act 47 dependency even with Edgar Thomson Plant operating in it’s city limits. What is going to replace this enormous tax base? Our air is “cleaner” now. But our local economies tank to levels not seen since likely the 1980’s and big steel’s permanent collapse. How many of these former steel mill towns have been able to recover 40 years later?
Clairton Mill closes, backstreet burger probably closes. speedway closes. It’s a ripple effect that goes beyond just the plant itself. These businesses were not put there to sustain just off of the city itself.
Are the local communities going to pay for the railroad workers retirement too because the mill was forced to shut down? They were dependent on the mill to make a living, too. Local owner operator truck drivers delivering products or hauling products out of the mills?
As much disdain it may bring you to see these plants operational, they are a critical part of the Mon Valley’s ecosystem. You can’t just replace 3,000 well paying jobs overnight.
chuckie512 t1_ixfl4g7 wrote
>The reality is that these 3 Mon Valley plants are US Steel’s cheapest cost per ton producer of steel in the company’s portfolio
Because we're subsidizing them with our lives.
Is a couple dozen jobs worth giving children decades long health issues? If we paid them out to retire, they'd still be in the tax base.
alwaysboopthesnoot t1_ixfxahb wrote
The federal government already pays ie:we the taxpayers already pay for railroad workers’ retirement. https://rrb.gov/
There is already a special, entirely separate system with special, extra coverage.
Should we also have to pay for the cleanup costs that the EPA and ACHD now pays to do, plus pay for the catastrophic medical care for everyone in the valley who suffers, after private companies privatize their profits but make taxpayers pay for their losses, and then take their own profits and close things down, and bolt?
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