Submitted by DanielAlman t3_yfafh7 in pittsburgh

Once the police have gathered as much information as they need, I hope these scumbags get charged as adults, and spend the rest of their lives in prison. I live right near this intersection. A few weeks ago some students assaulted a police officer at the bus stop in front of the same Starbucks on Murray Ave. Now this much, much worse crime happened. I've live in Squirrel Hill my entire life (I'm 51). I even graduated from this same high school - class of 1989.

I knew Karen Hurwitz, as we both attended Community Day School before Allderdice. She was murdered at age 17, by a 17 year old from another neighborhood, who came to her house in the middle of the night, and brought with him a samurai sword, which he used to murder her.

Just about all of the violent crime that has happened in Squirrel Hill, as far as I've read, was committed by people from other neighborhoods. The people who actually live here tend to be very well behaved and law abiding.

https://www.wpxi.com/news/local/pittsburgh-police-release-details-about-sexual-assault-allegations-against-high-school-students/PLPP425R4RCPTOGWK43GM5TQJM/

Pittsburgh police release details about sexual assault allegations against high school students

October 27, 2022

PITTSBURGH — Pittsburgh police are speaking out for the first time about their investigation into shocking and disturbing allegations that a 15-year-student at Taylor Allderdice High School was raped by several students after school and off campus.

At a weekly news briefing, police offered few new details but confirmed much of what Target 11 had first reported earlier this week.

It allegedly happened in a restroom at a nearby restaurant and in an abandoned building near the intersections of Murray and Forward avenues.

“I can acknowledge that we are investigating the allegations, and it’s a current and active and open investigation, so there’s nothing more I can give you at this time, just to say that we are aware of the incident and we are actively investigating at this time,” said Pittsburgh Police Commander Richard Ford, who heads the Major Crimes division.

Police have declined to release further details.

Target 11 has learned that the alleged assault happened on Friday, Oct. 14, and that detectives from the Pittsburgh Police Bureau Special Victims Unit canvassed the area near Forward and Murray and they’ve also visited the high school searching for witnesses and surveillance video to aid in the investigation.

It’s the same area where some residents and business owners complained of large groups of students gathering and some then fighting after school while waiting for buses.

And just last month, a police officer was injured while using his taser to break up one of those fights.

As for the alleged rape, police say there have been no arrests, yet.

“There has been no charges. The investigation is still ongoing at this time,” said Commander Ford.

Law enforcement sources told Target 11 that police have identified several of the teenagers allegedly involved in the assault.

Sources said the three teenagers are all 16 years old.

No charges have been filed as police continue their investigation.

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Hmgeisler t1_iu2l42g wrote

Your last paragraph comes across as a bit of a dog whistle…

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Hmgeisler t1_iu2o88f wrote

Who has been saying that? I just keep hearing about how he’s a quack of a doctor, not a resident of PA, and shills for fake medical products. Oh, and he kills animals and has no experience in government. But maybe I’m not seeing it because I don’t watch fX news, oan, and the like.

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DanielAlman OP t1_iu2ow12 wrote

It's a fact that the scumbag who murdered Karen Hurwitz, the guy who killed 11 people at Tree of Life, and the teens who recently assaulted a police officer at the bus stop near Starbucks on Murray Ave, were not from Squirrel Hill. What I said is 100% true. I don't understand why some people find that offensive. I happen to be interested in the truth. If some people find that offensive, that's on them, not me.

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DanielAlman OP t1_iu2p5vw wrote

My point is that I have lived in Squirrel Hill my entire life, and the people who live in this neighborhood are kind and decent. The violent crime that's happening here is being caused by people from other neighborhoods. That is a fact. It is the truth.

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DanielAlman OP t1_iu2qjht wrote

No, they are not from Squirrel Hill. But they do live in Squirrel Hill. Your point is valid. That being said, a lot of people who live here, have lived here for their entire life. Back when the Squirrel Hill Giant Eagle used to be open 24 hours, I liked to go grocery shopping at 3 A.M. And I don't drive. I've always felt perfectly safe, walking alone, even in the middle of the night. It's so calm and peaceful. This is generally a very, very safe neighborhood.

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DanielAlman OP t1_iu2r2yx wrote

And here's a reason why I'm a libertarian. I really, really don't understand why most black people voted for this racist:

https://web.archive.org/web/20190914095205/https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/27/us/politics/joe-biden-crime-bill-mass-incarceration.html

Joe Biden on Crime and Mass Incarceration

During the ’80s and ’90s, Mr. Biden helped shepherd a string of bills that transformed the criminal justice system — and, experts say, hurt America’s black communities.

June 27, 2019

As Joseph R. Biden Jr. makes his third run for the White House, he is being pressed to answer for his role in legislation that criminal justice experts say helped lay the groundwork for the mass incarceration that has devastated America’s black communities.

During the 1980s and 1990s, when Mr. Biden was a senator from Delaware, he and other leaders of the powerful Senate Judiciary Committee helped fashion a string of bills that overhauled the country’s crime laws.

Among the most significant were: the Comprehensive Crime Control Act of 1984, which established mandatory minimum sentences for drug offenses; the 1986 Anti-Drug Abuse Act, which imposed harsher sentences for possession of crack than for possession of powder cocaine; and the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, which was essentially a catchall tough-on-crime bill.

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https://web.archive.org/web/20210101105655/https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/25/us/joe-biden-crime-laws.html

‘Lock the S.O.B.s Up’: Joe Biden and the Era of Mass Incarceration

He now plays down his role overhauling crime laws with segregationist senators in the ’80s and ’90s. That portrayal today is at odds with his actions and rhetoric back then.

June 25, 2019

Now, more than 25 years later, as Mr. Biden makes his third run for the White House in a crowded field of Democrats – many calling for ambitious criminal justice reform — he must answer for his role in legislation that criminal justice experts and his critics say helped lay the groundwork for the mass incarceration that has devastated America’s black communities. That he worked with segregationists to write the bills — an issue that recently dominated the political news and seems likely to resurface in Mr. Biden’s first debate on Thursday – has only added to his challenge. So has the fact that black voters are such a crucial Democratic constituency.

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[deleted] t1_iu3r86g wrote

I’m betting anything the “local restaurant” is the Starbucks that all of the Taylor kids take over before and after school. There is usually a cop stationed outside there in the mornings and afternoon now because of how rowdy they get.

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ATribeCalledGreg t1_iu3yb0g wrote

I’m so sick of awful parents here. Why does it seem like the majority of major crimes lately is being committed by children?

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Pencilveinyah t1_iu4cht4 wrote

I never understood the people who use the “these criminals don’t live here” response when crime happens in their neighborhood.

Who cares where they live? If you are getting robbed would you feel better if your neighbor was doing it? The red flag is where the crime is happening not where the criminal goes home to rest his head

It seems like you are really saying that you don’t want outsiders in your neighborhood which is a very privileged way of thinking. Maybe build a wall around squirrel hill?

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[deleted] t1_iu4cplt wrote

Im willing to blame the kids then too. Not excuse them based on the things you listed.

Having anxiety and depression doesn’t mean you get a pass for raping a special needs kid in the bathroom of a restaurant. Like I’m sorry this generation has had a rough few years, but that’s no excuse for abhorrent behavior.

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DanielAlman OP t1_iu86340 wrote

I have never understood why most black people vote for the party of slavery, the Ku Klux Klan, Jim Crow, school segregation, redlining, Japanese internment, Robert Byrd, and Ralph Northam.

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uniquelabel t1_iu9bbbd wrote

It’s an interesting question. Democrats were 100% the party of racism in the 1800s, while Republicans were the party of Lincoln and abolition and civil rights. So what changed? If you’re really curious, you can read about the Dixiecrats, and the “southern strategy”. It’s interesting history.

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DanielAlman OP t1_iueeuqo wrote

I know about the southern strategy. But the fact remains that after Robert Byrd started his own KKK chapter and recruited 150 of his friends and family members to join, he later got elected to the U.S. Senate as a Democrat. And if he hadn't died, he would still be in office as a Democrat. Hillary Clinton even referred to him as her good friend and mentor. Byrd never changed his party affiliation to Republican.

Democrat Ralph Northam said it was indeed him in a racist photograph from college, but he wasn't sure if he was the guy in the KKK outfit, or the guy in blackface. And he never changed his affiliation to Republican either.

Joe Biden never changed his affiliation to Republican after creating his racist crime bill.

Democrats are also the party that thinks black people are too stupid to get into college without special racial preferences, despite the fact that there are a lot of very intelligent, very bright black people who did very, very well in high school, and who are perfectly capable of getting into college based 100% on merit.

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