keishathekat t1_itujr47 wrote
Although Dr. Oz had some great points in last night's debate, i don't know if he would switch up once he got into office, epecially when it comes to women's health care rights. I'm not sure if I can make sacrifice.
I heard of the incident that happened with the innocent jogger and Fetterman years ago and I don't know him enough to know if he was just 'doing the right thing' or if he was actually biased in that situation.
😳 How was he when he was mayor of braddock?! Anyone have any thoughts they would like to share?
These-Days t1_ituk5sq wrote
He has dates tattooed on his arm of people who have died of gun violence while he was mayor. Additionally, the jogger himself has since endorsed Fetterman. It is certainly not an incident that anyone looks back on fondly but I don't believe there to have been malice and I don't believe it's otherwise representative of him.
As far as Oz, he is the definitive TV snakeoil salesman, there's no reason to believe he's doing this for anyone but himself or that anything he says isn't subject to immediate change. He will toe the Republican party line unwaveringly in the Senate and does not care about the people in this state in which he doesn't reside.
keishathekat t1_itumzjs wrote
Thank you so much for this.
That's another disconnect that I have with Dr. Oz, he's rich and I am not. Who's to say he's for people line me?
I have a lot of thinking to do!
Goggles_Greek t1_ituo2xz wrote
If he cared about people like us, if he cared about Public Service, he would have entered public service years ago, and not just swooped in to try and use his money and fame to buy an empty Senate seat in a state he doesn't live in.
I don't think Captain Crudite thinks you and I are real people.
keishathekat t1_ituoadh wrote
That crossed my mind too.
I moved to Pgh before covid, stayed during covid and am still here! Atleast I came here for genuine reasons, not just for fame.
That really bothered me. 😕
These-Days t1_itunr0k wrote
One thing Oz keeps talking about is how John Fetterman was "bankrolled by his parents and given an allowance to live off of", implying he's some spoiled child. While it's true, John's parents help/ed him financially, what Oz doesn't like to point out is that the annual salary of being Mayor of Braddock is... $1800. John Fetterman probably comes from a wealthier family than you, but the amount he has gotten from his parents probably doesn't even equal out to one of Oz's 9 mansions across the world. How Oz can try not to be the "wealthy candidate" in this race is utterly hilarious to me.
Overall, to me, it barely matters anymore who the individual person is for Senate. The Congress is so hyper partisan that almost all Senators vote their party lines more than 95% of the time, and ones who don't like Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona (a very special case) are shunned by their party and unlikely to be reelected. My point is this isn't a governor's race, a senator these days is just a rubber stamp in Congress and exists to decide the majority party and therefore the majority leader. At the end of the day, all that ends up mattering is what party you want making decisions for you, and what party you want confirming Supreme Court Justices (maybe the most important consequence of retaining the senate right now).
Goggles_Greek t1_ituokk8 wrote
To be fair, Sinema gets shunned because she gets lobbied (bribed) by corporations to deliberately sink Democratic policies that would fairly tax and regulate corporations.
Fetterman in office and getting to 51+ Senators will make bribed Senators like Sinema much less powerful.
These-Days t1_ituoprr wrote
True, which makes voting blue no matter who that much more important, as much as "that's not how it should have to be".
Goggles_Greek t1_ituqlx8 wrote
Yeah. It's a crappy legislative system, and a two-party system has not been sustainable for our national health.
But those are the current rules. All we can do is make the best decisions based on the existing system.
Only way to change the system in my mind is for Democrats to win enough to gain a supermajority and get pressured and persuaded to change the systems for the better. And/or be large enough to split into two parties (that still each outnumber the right) that work as a coalition.
soonitwillbcold t1_itukihn wrote
Was way better as a mayor and Lt Gov IMO, a star in local and state politics but at the national level I feel like he's repeating establishment talking points (to the best of his ability, which ain't great right now) and really trying to "party up". Idk if it was the stroke or if he was alaways bound to turn more middle establishment dem rather than big pot flag in the state capital Fetterman.
Goggles_Greek t1_itup86d wrote
It's an election.
Moderates and fence-sitters are going to be courted by both candidates.
Oz isn't going to campaign on killing Social Security, ACA, and giving himself and other obscenely rich people tax cuts, but we all know that's what he'll do if he wins and Regressives take the Senate back.
Call it lying or campaigning, but that's how it goes in a purple state like PA. I trust the good stuff from Fetterman I've seen for years. And I trust the awful things I've read about Oz and seen from Regressives, and am going to vote to make sure Oz doesn't win.
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