I have a hard time believing any trade will accept anyone off the street with no prior experience and pay them 6-figures. It's nice advice if someone has the time and energy to devote to a career, but if we're talking about a person with a family and mouths to feed they can get jobs that pay the same entry level wage the trade would give with a better work/life balance.

That said, Do you have a website and link to the open 6-figure entry level paying door?

I found this job:

https://www.indeed.com/m/viewjob?jk=59b9e13b18ca175d&from=serp

Which sounds like a lot of frilly language to say we'll take advantage of you and that it's not the type of job for a person needing to support a family.

And doing some research into the company seems to prove this point:

https://www.indeed.com/cmp/Rj-Corman-Railroad-Group/reviews

Choo! Choo!

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PGB vs PGH should have been everyone's first clue that this is some kind of scam.

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This is still absolutely a scam. No one should believe this person.

> You're gone a lot, but its good money. > > I'm really just trying to reach out to people who are working more for a lot less and struggling to feed their families. I

Pay does sound good... but not many people want to be away from their families to support them. Family support also comes from being around, not just money.

Where can I file the lawsuit for age discrimination. You clearly state that you must be under 30. That's illegal.

I feel like this is some kind of trolling/shitposting in light of recent goings-on

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Remeber that thing that just happend, no not the derailment. The thing that the president signed, to stop a strike that was because of how absolutely horrid the rail companies are to work for? Hard pass.

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You are hired on in the $45,000-$55,000 a year range assuming you work a full schedule. BUT....you are not guaranteed any minimum number of hours. Unless you are specifically scheduled off, you are on call. If you get the call, you have to drive to any point on the line (could be 50-100 miles) at your expense, within 2 hours. You might be gone one day or three days. You can't sleep on the train. The work requires concentration and physical effort in all weather. You generally don't get sick days. You cannot plan vacations.

The railroads are trying to get rid of the conductor but they haven't been able to do it so far.

If you want to put in the time, have no life and have an understanding spouse that you will almost never see, and work 25-30 years like that, good luck.

What railroad do you work for making 45-55k a year? The NS minimum guarantee is 71k, and that's if you only work 1 or 2 days a week

RJ Forman is not a railroad. It is a railroad service company. They do shit like re rail cars, and remove debris from the tracks and stuff. They don't get paid like actual railroad employees, and they don't work the grueling schedules either.

Your just regurgitating headline news. Do you even read the news articles to understand what’s actually happening? the railroad unions have always historically abused the impact of a national strike to get obscene benefits that drive up costs for everyone and presidents have signed laws 18 times in a hundred years to stop them from striking. The main issue is railroads run cross country and it is not conducive to people calling out sick on short notice due to the logistical issues that causes.

I get that without strong unions or labor laws employees are abused but unions go to far sometimes and have too much power. I’d rather there were no unions bc so many union members don’t know how good they have it and vote for Republican politicians that screw the rest of us. The best union is a union that advocates for every last worker getting decent benefits but so many unions today are full of blue collar conservative losers that will keep voting for republicans until the day their union is abolished and they make a pikachu face because they are in shock that the republicans they voted for actually despise them.

Got it

I work for US Steel, and I met a guy in a training class who works at a different plant that I do, who had previously worked for the railroad, and I do believe it was NS. And he told a similar story about not getting hardly any hours, and being on call. Maybe they've changed something since then, or maybe it was a different RR, but he quit and came to the mill because he wasn't making a stable income.

To be fair, I do think that all happened while he was still probationary. But it did not sound like a pleasant job compared to working on a blast furnace.

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It was probably about five years ago I was talking with him. And I don't recall how long since he'd had that experience. Thanks for clearing it up.

The extended time away would be a deal breaker for me. I turned down a lot of lucrative, "on the road" work over the years. I have kids, and I can't be the kind of dad I want to be if I'm 1000 miles away all the time. Heck, the rotating shifts at the mill damn near wrecked my marriage. But you're right, if you're a person who's already working 80 hour weeks for shit money, this would definitely be a better opportunity.

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I've done pretty well in the mill. I don't have to work a shitload of OT to cross the six figure mark. The Job I had before this was USW represented as well, and that was also pretty good. That RR retirement does sound pretty good. But I'm a little long in the tooth for it to benefit me anyway. Resetting the retirement clock for a new 30 year countdown doesn't make much sense when you're already over 40.

This is from a Norfolk-Southern ad for Conductors:

"The conductor position can often mean a significant lifestyle change as the work schedule is often non-traditional and requires many to be available to work on a 90-minute to 2-hour notice
Individuals are responsible for providing their own transportation to the area
A CT will expect to work a schedule similar to that of a regular conductor
As a conductor you will most likely be assigned to a conductors' extra board
Conductor extra boards have schedules with a minimum of two rest days for every six consecutive working days
While not on your rest days, you are subject to be called to work 24 hours a day, on an as-needed basis
Extra board work schedules are irregular and are determined by business needs
You will be required to report to your work location within a 90-minute to 2-hour notice
A conductor should expect to work outdoors in all types of weather conditions
This may mean working in poor weather conditions day or night"
During training a Conductor Trainee (CT) will earn $25 per hour, with a minimum $200 in earnings per shift

Additionally, CTs are eligible for an on-the-job training incentive of $300 per bi-weekly pay period

After training, conductors earn an average of $70,000 in their first year"

Here is the pay info for Wheeling & Lake Erie Railroad (admittedly, not a Class I railroad):

"Wages
Brakeman: $22.12/hr
Conductor: $24.35/hr
Engineer: $26.52/hr
The annual earnings potential ranges from the low $50k to mid $80K depending upon the number of hours worked"

For what you earning, you are making more than 90% of college graduates will ever see. You made a good choice.

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Are you a rail industry recruiter? Idk, Norfolk Southern has already done a spectacular job showing the citizens of East Palestine and surroundings areas of PA, OH and WV what they and the larger rail industry truly stand for and how responsible and conscientious they are.

I can’t really think of a better advertisement as an employer than blowing up 5 cars filled with vinyl chloride after a preventable derailment then getting the tracks fixed ASAP without properly remediating the soil, so that basically the air and water and people in the town and surrounding areas are just f’d. If they treat victims of their derailment like that, I can’t wait to see how they treat their employees.

Where do we sign up?

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If I was young and single, I would consider it.

I might talk to my nephew about it, though. He is 19 and college wasn't for him (he went one semester). He likes working in a warehouse and the hours are good (M-F 7:30am-4:00 pm). I might ask him about the railroad, though.

Thank you.