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lessregretsnextyear t1_j96llya wrote

City or Suburbs? If you have a car there are many very affordable suburbs that aren't a terrible commute to the city. Otherwise, public transportation isn't great here. To answer your question though, Pittsburgh is relatively affordable compared to other cities.

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Ordinary_Promise7748 OP t1_j96m2a6 wrote

City! Since I wont have a car right away, I was planning to rely on public transportation:( tell me more about it 😋

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mikeyHustle t1_j96n0k1 wrote

In and out of Downtown and Oakland, public transit is very effective.

In most other neighborhoods, it's spottier and more frustrating, but usable.

It's nearly unusable outside the city proper, except for taking the train to the South Hills.

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varzaguy t1_j97498p wrote

Any spot that is next to the busway or next to a t station is pretty damn good for public transportation.

Shadyside is pretty good. Mt. Washington is pretty good.

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Ordinary_Promise7748 OP t1_j96p9hd wrote

More frustrating how?

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mikeyHustle t1_j96wa41 wrote

You just have to wait longer between buses. I go up to Mt. Washington pretty frequently, and to get back to the East End, I have to catch a bus that comes once every hour, and transfer in Downtown to a bus that comes every 45 minutes.

If I were going from Downtown to Oakland or vice-versa, I could catch a bus in 5-10 mins. almost every time.

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burritoace t1_j99xmv2 wrote

If you can walk a bit and avoid limiting yourself to one line you should be able to get to the east end on less than 45 min headways

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Ordinary_Promise7748 OP t1_j96y8eh wrote

Oh so they dont come every 5-10 mins everywhere? Ugh. That sucks! One more question: how’s the east allegheny area in that regard?

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MakesUsMighty t1_j972w7s wrote

The only neighborhood with transit that frequent I know of is Forbes / Fifth Ave in Oakland. Most bus lines throughout the region run with 20 minute headways at peak. 30min is pretty typical, and it gets up to 60 or 90 if you’re much further out and/or it’s a weekend.

Also it’s largely a hub and spoke system. Most lines travel through downtown or Oakland at some point, so if that isn’t your origin or destination you’re likely to need a transfer there.

If I move back to Pittsburgh I’d probably try to move to Oakland. It’s dense enough to be a city in its own right (it’s Pennsylvania’s third largest employer behind Philadelphia and downtown Pittsburgh), if that’s your vibe.

If not, head out a mile or two and there are lots of nice neighborhoods that are an easy bike ride or walk into the built-up areas.

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Ordinary_Promise7748 OP t1_j97dsqw wrote

I see.. and I’ll definitely look into Oakland, I’ve heard some good things about it :) thanks!

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mikeyHustle t1_j976nze wrote

If you mean East Allegheny on the north shore by the stadiums, it's OK in that you can either get downtown by taking the train for free (for now) or walk across a bridge, and go from there to anywhere you like.

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Ordinary_Promise7748 OP t1_j97cu9s wrote

Yes, that part.. oh boy! Im excited 😊 thank you!

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mikeyHustle t1_j97i0pq wrote

Yeah, I hear most people call it Deutschtown, or sometimes even just "East Ohio Street." There's a big music festival there every summer, and some cute shops along E Ohio. Threadbare Cider is nearby. It's a good location to be near things. Sometimes crime happens nearby, but it's rarely random attacks on people minding their business. It can get sketch up there at night, though, so y'know. Like any city, just be alert if you're walking back home late.

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Ordinary_Promise7748 OP t1_j97ktwc wrote

You make some excellent points.. I’ve lived in a big city before too, so I hope I know how to be careful lol.. just sad that the crime is kinda high there

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ChinaLouise t1_j97id2o wrote

Uh yeah. So what kind of neighborhood do you want to live in because the north side is pretty ish

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Ordinary_Promise7748 OP t1_j97jffm wrote

Really? Well f*ck. I found a really cute apt there and it fascinated me because of how close it is to downtown .. i might just toughen it out? Lol

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ChinaLouise t1_j97k1ko wrote

I mean, Pittsburgh isn't Detroit lol. You'll be ok. It's just a bit rougher. Just avoid the bars around there at night.

If you enjoy a bit of crack cocaine tho you're in luck!

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Ordinary_Promise7748 OP t1_j97lyfg wrote

Lol 😂 I don’t but I keep my options open.. you never know what life brings, am I right? 😆

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kellytop412 t1_j974ptu wrote

Easy Allegheny is generally referred to the north side...i had to Google it. It's basically downtown, so you won't need public transportation if that's where you are working. I'm not sure where you trying to bus to? Most buses intersect downtown.

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Ordinary_Promise7748 OP t1_j97dhit wrote

Oh okay, still not that familiar with the terms lol well i dont know, but im thinking I’ll need some transportation to a grocery store or the gym , you know stuff like that :)

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B0bb3r7 t1_j98ebu6 wrote

East Allegheny is more exact and correct. For whatever reason, people outside of the northside just call everything north of the Allegheny and Ohio "the northside." It's also definitely not "basically downtown." In fact, it used to be a city of its own until Pittsburgh annexed it over a century ago.

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Allegheny, Pennsylvania

>Allegheny City was a municipality that existed in the U.S. state of Pennsylvania from 1788 until it was annexed by Pittsburgh in 1907. It was located north across the Allegheny River from downtown Pittsburgh, with its southwest border formed by the Ohio River, and is known today as the North Side. The city's waterfront district, along the Allegheny and Ohio rivers, became Pittsburgh's North Shore neighborhood.

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CDewfus t1_j96ugzx wrote

Oakland is amazing for transit. College town.

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But_Mooooom t1_j96mpea wrote

It's...serviceable? Pittsburgh usually favors having access to a car, but you'll make it just fine in plenty of areas without one if you're patient. Pretty much all bus with minimal rail line extending south of the city.

The map is misleading as there's tons of elevation change throughout the area. Make sure you don't get taken by surprise when planning out walking routes.

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B0bb3r7 t1_j973gc0 wrote

It's entirely possible to rely on public transit. For excellent mobility, I would suggest supplementing it with a bike. I've been car-free for 7 years and have no intention of changing. You may want us visit us at r/CarIndependentPGH, too.

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Ordinary_Promise7748 OP t1_j97else wrote

😊 😊 yes, I’m also planning to use my bike.. and that’s good that I found more car-free people 🥳

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Indrigotheir t1_j96wlbp wrote

Look at where the T line travels to the south of the city, and look for apartments along it (within a few blocks ideally).

The "T" is the name of Pittsburgh's light passenger rail system. It is the most reliable, affordable method of public transit in the city. It travels from the heart of downtown, to fairly remote suburbs in the south. There is a gradient of [cheap-but-sketchy] to [bougie-but-expensive] housing along it.

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GmysBETS t1_j9b0trc wrote

I lived in Beechview (City neighborhood- short ride outside of downtown on the T-line)…it was a great neighborhood with great non-stop Light Rail Transit north/south, along with very easy access to highways. In the day 20 years ago, housing prices were very affordable.

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_Booster_Gold_ t1_j98j5ig wrote

You could probably extend your search along the T line in that case.

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oneTnoH t1_j972j6t wrote

Hold on to the handrails when you get on the bus, the driver will slam on the pedal the second you get on and send you flying. Also if you are not immediately at the door to get on they will just drive away so be ready, they don't care if you're old or disabled.

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Ordinary_Promise7748 OP t1_j97fkpb wrote

Made me laugh 😅 so the drivers are savage 😅 very useful information!!

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oneTnoH t1_j97gtud wrote

The bus is also very expensive and yinzers will get extremely upset if you pay cash, so just get the card or the app and load it with a car payments worth of money

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