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sailingtroy t1_iy56zuq wrote

Reply to comment by ccoady in Who decided on the fine by fireintheskyy

Yeah, we had airport security before we had post-9/11 airport security. Guns were tough to get through back then, too. And you didn't have to take off your shoes or your belt and they weren't allowed to go through your phone. There are other countries where their flights are just as safe and the lines aren't nearly as long. The thing about too much security is that it will always succeed.

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ccoady t1_iy885cz wrote

What we don't know is did the fact that TSA exists thwart terrorist plans and save hundreds or thousands of lives? We'll never know.

I'm a private pilot with a commercial rating, so I fly myself most places I want to go. I avoid large airports because of all the security measures. I hate the fact the FAA can track my plane via ADS-B and send me a ticket if I accidentally bust airspace without radioing in or being on the proper transponder frequency, but the implementation of all the new security measures allows me to see real time traffic on my screen as well as real time weather without an expensive radar system on my plane.

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sailingtroy t1_iy8usid wrote

Yeah, that's a basic paradox of security - has been for all time. If you let them, the security people will just continue to ramp up forever. It's totally reasonable to demand a clawback every now and again. ADS-B and real-time weather have nothing to do with letting the TSA strip-search people who are just trying to go on vacation. I shouldn't have to give up the contents of my phone just so I can attend grandma's funeral.

It's hilarious, and rude, to me that you've painted this picture in your mind of me as a "Christan conservative" who "stopped learning" with no idea as to the truth. You think I'm some right-wing moron who can't adapt to the future, but the truth is that I'm a Canadian liberal with a PPL who gives flight lessons to noobs in VR. I watched 9/11 happen, and I remember what flying was like before. Not everyone who wants their rights back is a Trumpy. Try not to make assumptions about people online, dude. You brought identity politics to a discussion about security theatre and that's just rude. You were a real prick to me back there with your "it pays to never stop learning" schtick.

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