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Chrisproulx98 t1_ja13aga wrote
Interesting how the front page is nearly all murders. The Hall Mills murder was famous here in NJ at that time. I didn't realize it was such a national story.
Knee_Squeezings t1_ja13ix7 wrote
Alot of murder columns lol
Whattheheckhero t1_ja13ood wrote
Going off the caption under the pictures in the upper right-ish, you can see the names “Bill Tallman” and “Mrs Patty”, best guess off of google is this murder case: https://www.cruiseshipdeaths.com/1926/06/04/virginia-patty-passenger-cruise-ship-death-aboard-ss-admiral-benson-murder/
Murder took place in 1926: long story short allegedly Patty was having an affair with Tallman, when she tried to end it he beat her to death and was stuffed in a closet
Genuinely all I can find of this case is that article and a couple of evidence photos
My_Books_are_Calling t1_ja18dbg wrote
Found this but I can keep digging.
An "eternal triangle" that ended in murder featured wealthy businessman Frank D. Patty, his beautiful blonde wife Virginia Patty, and William Tallman, who is alleged to have engaged in a love affair with Mrs. Patty. Tallman would become the main suspect and face scrutiny and investigation in Mrs. Patty's death; she was killed with a brick inside an apartment allegedly rented by Tallman.
wish1977 t1_ja18drq wrote
I just hope that farmhouse isn't haunted.
Equivalent-Pay1681 OP t1_ja18txz wrote
Seems pretty straight forward. Wanting to know more about the “reopening “?
Equivalent-Pay1681 OP t1_ja19156 wrote
The floor of the entire room was covered in 1928 newspapers to protect from drafts. That’s just one of the many headlines haha
My_Books_are_Calling t1_ja19qyt wrote
I’m working on it. I’m having luck finding images with information on it. But I’m still digging.
LadnavIV t1_ja1bg3r wrote
I’m something of an expert and I’m fairly confident this is a 1929 newspaper.
Equivalent-Pay1681 OP t1_ja1c2hr wrote
Yeah my mistake. There were newspapers from both 1928-1929 found. Did the date at the top of the paper give it away?
Heres_your_sign t1_ja1c3ok wrote
Lol, cops were fat in 1928 too.
Heres_your_sign t1_ja1c74p wrote
If it bleeds, it leads.
Heres_your_sign t1_ja1c8o0 wrote
Porky pigs ...
LadnavIV t1_ja1c9qf wrote
No. As I said, I’m an expert. I could tell from the fonts and paper and stuff. Technical things like that.
Equivalent-Pay1681 OP t1_ja1civv wrote
I guess non experts will just have to look at the date it was printed lol
My_Books_are_Calling t1_ja1fts4 wrote
After some more digging and finding an article from June 5, 1929 I can sort of piece together what happened, but can really say why the paper says it’s “reopened” as your date and my articles date are days apart. It could be a matter of the word meaning something different at the time. Such as “reopening” might mean looking again shortly after the crime, where today it is a longer time period. But I’m not sure. Here’s the article I found from the Prescott Evening Currier:
LOS ANGELES, June 5.-(/P)- Police began today clearing what they termed the "loose ends of an eternal triangle." The principles according to police records were Mrs. Virginia Patty, unfortunate victim of the triangle, her husband, Frank D. Patty, Portland the business men, and William Tallman, former radio operator. The latter is under arrest on board the steamer Admiral Benson, due in San Francisco tonight from San Pedro. Mrs. Patty's body was found yesterday in the closet of a rooming house, tied to a clothes hook, bearing numerous bruises and contusions, showing she had met death by violence. Just how long her body the had been in the closet, police were unable to adefinitely determine, but Coroner Frank Nance approximated the time as between 24 and 72 hours after death Tallman will be turned over to Los Angeles detectives and brought to this city to face formal complaint of murder on arrival of the Admiral Benson in San Francisco. When informed of his arrest, Tallman, according to the captain of the steamer, "seemed stunned" and claimed innocence of the slaying Suspicion was directed toward Tallman by Patty, who told police he had learned that the radio operator had been paying marked attention to his wife during his, Patty's absence. The Patty's have been winter residents of Los Angeles for some time, due, Patty explained, to his wife's health. She had, he said, shortly, also spent some time in Arizona because of fear of tuberculosis affliction. On another side of the triangle, the police found that the room where Mrs. Patty's body' was discovered had been rented a fow days before by a man giving the name of "W. C. Johnson of San Francisco." The owner of the rooming house, Mrs. M.W. Wilson, when shown a picture of Tallman, Identified it as Johnson, police said.
I’ve also found that there were fingerprints found in the apartment and compared to Tallman but didn’t find if it played any part. Fingerprinting in those days were kind of a joke where you only needed something stupid like 4 points of comparison where as today it’s like 12 or more. So even if they said it was his, it’d be sketchy as hell.
It’s also worth mentioning the husband was away allot on business so it’s why she “stepped out” (as the newspapers of the time called it).
Still haven’t found the outcome but it’s past my bedtime. Though I’d say it was Tallman or the husband. But then, it’s always the husband.
Dawgsquad00 t1_ja1gco0 wrote
TitaniaT-Rex t1_ja1mfoc wrote
Are you a librarian?
P.s. I noticed your username just as I was about to hit the post button lol
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Palace_Art108 t1_ja1pioy wrote
In from wichita. Check out the btk case…
My_Books_are_Calling t1_ja1qztl wrote
No, I’m not. I’m just an avid reader.
On top of that, I’m into true crime and I’m always interested in learning so it works well when my curiosity is peaked.
My_Books_are_Calling t1_ja1rhpp wrote
You forgot the Bender Family who also lived in Kansas.
Not the same as Raider but still a pretty brutal killer “family”.
TheIntrepid1 t1_ja1t7j3 wrote
That is some tiny font!
phaedrus71 t1_ja1tybc wrote
Am I the only one feeling bad for the suicidal “dope addict”…?
Palace_Art108 t1_ja1w61v wrote
I’ll take the bender family and raise you the Car bothers. What’s interesting about the Midwest is that the citizens here think nothing so abominable could happen here. Then when perverse personality’s commit such atrocities, the masses are shocked. But horror can happen anywhere at anytime…
ajhart86 t1_ja247d7 wrote
The headline is referring to the article on the right titled “Kansas Felon Saw Slaying of Hall-Mills”
The first paragraph says that a tramp had kept quiet for years and that they were reopening the famous Hall-Mills case
Abriel_Lafiel t1_ja2cu7y wrote
I love reading old newspapers like this.
beneaththeslope t1_ja2k6ne wrote
Price five cents good old days
DrRhinoceros t1_ja2kish wrote
The headline refers to the Hall Mills murder column on the far right. You can tell by the way the formatting has only a partial line above that column, vs. the full separation line above the rest. Very famous case
TheLAriver t1_ja33hll wrote
Of course, it's famous
barefoot_baby t1_ja3apno wrote
r/oddlyterrifying
My_Books_are_Calling t1_ja3c3ql wrote
Mystery solved! Thanks!
My_Books_are_Calling t1_ja3csib wrote
As a serial killer/cult/true crime fanatic for 24 years, it’s amazing how often you hear “they don’t look like a serial killer” and what does a serial killer look like? Seriously.
Have you ever seen Murder Comes to Town? It’s a show on investigation discovery about murder in small town usa. It’s a good show.
frodosbitch t1_ja4u3og wrote
For the tagline “Kansas’ greatest newspaper” - how do you pronounce Kansas’. Is it Kansas-es? Or just Kansas ?
shroomride88 t1_ja58mkl wrote
Dude’s qualifications: just trust me bro I’m an expert lmao
Palace_Art108 t1_ja5uvjk wrote
Exactly, just like Hannibal Lecter, although I know it’s fiction, but he was an esteem doctor and artist, but also a blood sucking murder who ate human flesh! When both dualities of beauty and horror come together in human beings fellow man becomes stunned by another’s acts, but also become deeply fanatical about atrocity. (Read JG Ballards novel “crash” and you’ll know what I mean).
My_Books_are_Calling t1_ja7dyuw wrote
You’re looking for someone like Dr Harold Shipman. It’s believed he killed over 200 people. He’s an English case but there’s other cases of “angels of death” (not including Josef Mengle)
wanking_to_got t1_ja12nnf wrote
Chicago's corpulent cop's must reduce..