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Ill_Department_2055 t1_j5qinad wrote

Reply to comment by token-black-dude in On Whether “Personhood” is a Normative or Descriptive Concept by ADefiniteDescription

You're missing the point. I hope.

You cannot possibly actually believe an Australian deserves fewer human rights than a French person simply because you happen to be French.

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token-black-dude t1_j5qjiul wrote

No and that's not what i'm arguing. I'm arguing that there is no practical responsibility for me to ensure, that strangers who I am not in a reciprocal relationship with (even as "fictional" as nationality) have the practical ability to enjoy their rights. And I don't think people are willing to accept that there even is such a theoretical responsibility.

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Ill_Department_2055 t1_j5qk6ki wrote

You're turning into some strange sort of pretzel here.

But let me try to glean the main message here: you DO understand that Australian people have rights that have nothing whatsoever to do with your personal relationship to them.

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token-black-dude t1_j5qkx5s wrote

Yes, that's between them and their government. They have no right to expect me to take responsibility for their wellbeing, just as I can't expect them to care for mine. We are not in a mutually reciprocal relationship

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Ill_Department_2055 t1_j5qldxr wrote

>Yes

Cool. Then you do agree with everything I was saying in the first place. Good talk.

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