Submitted by ADefiniteDescription t3_1097594 in philosophy
j50gibson t1_j410gw3 wrote
Close minded dick if you can’t appreciate the art because of something you heard the artist did to someone else. Its just like meeting new people, if they are nice to you , you think they are a nice person, if someone tells you “no that person is a meanie and the worst” To me, the only interaction i’ve had with this person has been positive. I would be a idiot to just start hating someone because of what the other person told me. I wasn’t there when he was a dick, he wasn’t a dick to me therefore i don’t think he’s a dick .
92taurusj t1_j417z13 wrote
Does the level of trust you have in the person telling you that the new person is mean and the worst not play a role in your decision-making?
If your most trusted friend, who's always been straight with you, told you the person is a dick, would that not carry more weight?
j50gibson t1_j41cmyf wrote
If my best friend tells me not to be friends with someone because of shitty things they’ve done i’ll consider that info for sure. However when it comes to art and the artist, i think people who’ve done shitty things can make beautiful art as well. It doesn’t mean i support the shitty things they’ve done . I just like art. I know some people who will stop listening to actual good music because of (possibly false) allegations . I think thats silly tbh . Museums have old paintings of artists who’ve done awful things back in the day, yet people still line up to go see them .
92taurusj t1_j41yo90 wrote
>I think thats silly tbh . Museums have old paintings of artists who’ve done awful things back in the day, yet people still line up to go see them .
To me, this seems to ignore important context. People go to museums to see famous art made by both bad and good people, yes. However, doesn't it seem that the historical significance plays a large role, as well?
Let's take Picasso as an example. He was famously abusive and misogynistic. His most famous pieces, however, depict scenes from the era of World War 2, among other topics. If we're looking at a modern artist like Spacey, in comparison, I think we have to consider a few key differences:
1a. Spacey's still alive, and it might feel more like you're directly supporting a person accused (and who admitted in this case) to doing some pretty bad things compared to viewing a dead guy from history's works
1b. The money spent to view the dead guy's work is likely going to a museum or organization with a mission of preserving and displaying a variety of historical pieces, rather than seeing a new Spacey movie knowing some of the proceeds go directly to him
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Spacey's work has arguably less historical value when looked at overall
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Society has advanced, and what it tolerates from artists has changed. Evolving standards in society is generally a good thing (slavery is bad now, more women have rights, torture is a no-no, etc.)
>I know some people who will stop listening to actual good music because of (possibly false) allegations.
Follow up to this point: do you find it silly if a Jewish person hears Kanye say he likes Hitler and decides they don't want to listen to any Kanye music anymore?
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