Submitted by Gmroo t3_106khbl in philosophy
What a fucking ridiculously unintelligible heading to this post.
I wholeheartedly agree.
Please, just ELI5!
Once we create new minds they will be so different that all communication will breakdown and we won't be able to predict each other's behavior or states.
Like if you cry now I can make the reasonable assumption you are sad or pain. Tremendously many assumptions like this one we take for granted because we're all humans and the diversity is quite low compared to a civilization that builds new types of minds.
So I argue this is a disaster waiting to happen.
> So I argue this is a disaster waiting to happen.
It does sound dystopian. But can you elaborate on this?
The post elaborates on it. I just tried to think the logical consequences through of what happens when you introduce basically alien minds into a civilization that for 99% caters to one. Dystopian or not, it is what it is.
What’s your thoughts on us returning to a visual language through the embrace of AI and these new minds?
I could see as AI normalizes, AI generated visuals becoming their own form of language and communication due to its basic form of being an image translated from words and concepts.
We already see this slightly with memes and I’d argue it proves the opposite of any collapse, due to the collective sharing and understanding of what most memes essence is.
I think we need to work on figuring out what sort universal languages may be created and may exist. For example exchanging knowledge graphs.
I don't think current memes prove anything, in the sense that with the introduction of new minds we'll have a whole other world of minds on our hands.
So tendences of current minds are not that relevant.
Just imagine entities whose behavior completely doesn't jive with what you're used to from humans. We're used to infer each other's states because we're so alike. That's how evolution optimized us. But there is no universal principle that this needs to be the case. At all. Hence a total collapse of intersubjectivity once we have a "free for all" mind designs.
Sorry, I tried to put it in one sentence with just 270 characters. Once we will augment minds and create new minds with AI, we will have catastrophic communication issues due to diverging subjectivity of these minds.
“Catastrophic communication issues” and “diverging subjectivity of minds?”
So…communication issues because people think differently? Just say that bud, this isn’t English 203 lll
"Because people think differently" is not the case I make. Read the post.
That’s what the post says bud. Stop trying to big head everything, lol. This isn’t “Fight Club”
Read the post, not just the title. A mind does not equal a human or "people".
I read the post, how about YOU read some of the comments you’re getting?
Stop 👏🏻trying 👏🏻to👏🏻make👏🏻yourself👏🏻sound👏🏻smarter👏🏻by👏🏻using👏🏻unnecessary👏🏻words👏🏻
“Computers maybe might think differently, so that probably might change society.” Wow, one sentence, one comma- REVOLUTIONARY!
It's an important message, being considerate of the authors writings. Please be kind and reeeeewind
It’s a 7th grade “I just watched Vanilla Sky and now I understand” epiphany lol.
Imagine a God shows up and speaks with you.
They are omnipotent and genuinely pleasant.... but they burn your house down.
They burnt your house down to help you.
You just know that there is no way that burning your house has helped you, but both opinions are true.... The difference being that one of you exists outside of Time.
your perspectives don't line up.
So…like regular human behavior then ? 🤦♂️
But with a holographic overlay and a few additional senses.
I don't see it as unintelligible at all. Must be a cultural difference between me and this sub's general users. I see people trying to relate it to social justice, which is probably the area they're more comfortable in, kinda like I often try to parse philosophical arguments in terms of systems and mathematical models.
As they say, when all you have is a hammer, a screw is an ugly nail with a helix that makes it needlessly difficult to hammer.
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