Synopsis: the tyranny of time was produced by both religious and scientific endeavors and has been a convenient means of control and domination for political economic systems, namely capitalism, as eras have changed. We've come to think of it as a matter that is measured rather than produced and this article delves into a rich history of time as a concept.

Apologies, mods idk how to include a synopsis in a link post. I hope this is suitable

Yeah. Well done. Time is a concept. So is Love. With current “rulers” we cannot reconcile the two. Odd that. Lots of clues. How you can’t have infinity in a closed system. NEVER. Second clue. Pi is not a number. It’s a concept. Concepts are “infinite” not possible. So the concept is wrong. Go back to your books. 22/7 is pi. It’s not the answer, it’s the number. Yeah. Once you got that, well philosophy becomes moot. OH AND THE ONLY INFINITE THING IS COLOUR AND LOVE. Work it out. Like I did. Thought. Logic. Even when logic fails it still provides. Wrap your noodle into that.

Interesting article. Always wondered how humans lived prior to clocks.

This is giving the clock too much credit. It's just a clock. If you want me to claim that hours of unpaid homemaking are a tyranny then blame the society that didn't pay them, not the hours.

MoWee

I'd love to be able to pick up what you're laying down, but it feels kinda snarky. I know this because I'm quite the snarker myself. In our personal spiritual practices my partner & I joke to "Keep the normies out."

Still, your comment interests me, and in some way i see something that I like, something you've said reverberates. You've got a point, and I think it's a good one. But,

It was verbose & terse at the same time, and I didn't exactly follow. I'm a CunningLingust, but sometimes metaphor still escapes me. I'm interested in what you have to say here though. Would you explain to me?
If not here feel free to DM.

Yup. Nothing like pulling the pin and walking away. All done with a word. Well. 22 of them and a few directions. All handily er handy? But you need two eyes and a bit of the old greys to understand it. All those meanings. Yeah. You can’t measure unless you have a constant. We’ve been given loads. We just haven’t been told the truth of a constant and and the constant of the truth. Same for reality, really. And because we haven’t all been told the truth, we can’t handle reality. Which is why we are here. Learn to handle reality. After that, well, the universe is your oyster. And yeah, real warp travel.

We are the constant that observes. If that’s missing, well, where would life be? And if the observer informs, the rules change. For the better. You can trust me on that. Ask any quantum guy. Once a system has been observed, it has to change. If you know the possibilities, you can corner the universe at every turn. It then yields. All of her secrets.

Why?

Because the universe WANTS you to win. No leaving till you’ve got that. You. Are your own worst enemy. Defeat yourself and you win. Doesn’t matter about anything else (although that’s terribly good fun!) beat yourself beat the universe. It’s hard. But I did it. Someone has to lead the way.

God it’s beautiful here. (I still really prefer universe) She is a thing of beauty.

MoWee

Very interesting article. Decided about halfway through I was going to remove the concept of time from my life as a way to get back to nature or a more natural way of life. Then put down the phone I was reading the article on and looked at my wrist to see what time it was. Regardless of the political tone of the article one has to admit. The hour and minute hands have made us their slaves. For better or worse.

This is like a light beer version of Time and its Discontents.

Oh nice! Thanks for sharing

If there was no observer, would time mean anything?

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Well. If there was no sun I doubt there would be time either

Thank you for sharing really great read🤯🧐

I’ve been thinking about the passage of time a lot - and how much it seems to warp and bend like this article mentions. It seems like some months last a year, and others an hour. It’s also jarring how every moment that has defined or impacted me as a human - the moment of my birth, my first kiss, my first true love, every moment of defeat, triumph, joy, despair - carries a time stamp with it even if I’m not personally aware of it exactly. The timeless moments that seem to slip out of this realm can, in actuality, be lodged within their respective minutes somewhere out there in endless ledger of time.

I'm asking if time is a construct of observers. Quantum positioning may well operate outside of time as we, the only known observers, understand it.

The presence of the Sun is not the query here.

Edit: I don't think pasting the article here for relevance is allowed but the heading “They have been trapped by their own inventiveness and audacity. And they must pay with their lives.”, the last paragraph of the OP's link, begs the very question I posed - the source of their anger - the observer trapped in time.

I wish I could remember who it was by but I watched a lecture not long ago that explained how time isn't what we perceive it to be. In it he pointed out that clocks have tricked us into thinking we can measure time, when in reality one cannot. Part of his point was that if you have two identical clocks, but you hold them in two different spots, you will read two different times, despite them being completely synchronized before movement.

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