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NewPackage3269 OP t1_j2nigmc wrote

Like most rational people, I'm agnostic about Santa Claus.

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aryu2 t1_j2o7e3t wrote

Agreed,it wasn't a good argument.I tought about another one which I hope makes more sense:“God is real because he produces real effects.” If correct this conclusion can be applied to justify the existence of any other thing including an entity that is contrary to the existence of God(let's call it No-God),something on the lines:The believe in No-God produces real effects in the world therefore he is real.But No-God and God can't be both real therefore this conclusion can't be used to justify the existence of God.(this is a mere tought and probaly has strong counter arguments)

Another thing is that in the conclusion presented(God is real because he produces real effects.) it's not God that is producing the effects is the believe in God.

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