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Aimfri t1_j1s71an wrote

Reply to comment by Danix2400 in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | December 26, 2022 by BernardJOrtcutt

You might be interested in what some fans call "metaphysical satanism", which is a kind of gnostic pessimism developed in the works of the band Deathspell Omega. Think Georges Bataille throwing a party with Schopenhauer and Jon Notveid. They take Satan as figuring a cosmic principle of destruction, and then infuse that thought into every aspect of theology and politics. In a manner of speaking, evil is their conclusion, yet not in a monolithic, edgy teenager kind of way.

If you're interested, check out the lyrics to their two most recent albums, The Furnaces of Palingenesia and The Long Defeat.

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bumharmony t1_j1ttt2f wrote

Satan is not evil per se. There is no water proof explanation of evil in the Bible. He does not just obey and serve God. It would be circular to think that everything diverging from the status quo is automatically evil.

Break the loops and fill the pig holes.

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Aimfri t1_j1tz6ey wrote

Yeah, you definitely read what I wrote.

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bumharmony t1_j1u17dy wrote

Destruction of what? Pinatas? improbable societal orders? What? To destruct is a verb that requires a subject and an object.

It is so silly that theology can not take even rudimentary ethical critique. I guess that is why it is called belief. But even belief must be feasible on the level of following a coherent set of rules.

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Aimfri t1_j1u86m5 wrote

I can't have a civil discussion with you if you keep attacking half-baked strawmen and not reading anything others say. I haven't even started making a point, I just provided some references as a conversation starter with a very succinct summary, and you already are trying to burn everything around you to the ground. There are inevitable generalisations in a Reddit comment of a few hundred characters. Have you considered they could be just that - simplifications for the sake of brevity - and not fallacies left open for you to play such a childish game of refutation?

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bumharmony t1_j1u8jkt wrote

Lately there have been several threads about evil in ways that do not at all tease the whole conception. This is one of them. I was replying to the thread, not your personal reply.

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Aimfri t1_j1ugld6 wrote

The fact that you pinpointed the words "destruction" and "theology", in a second answer to a short comment that featured them prominently, says otherwise. Reads more like you tried an easy jab and don't feel like owning to it if taken seriously.

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