chrismacphee t1_j0ng9fw wrote on December 18, 2022 at 12:18 AM

Consciousness emerges through integration of its parts

DriftMantis t1_j0nq71v wrote on December 18, 2022 at 1:38 AM

Consciousness both perceives the parts and integrates them. In that sense it appears self emergent. Some might say that reality only exists within consciousness.

Its hard to say what something is if you can never be outside of it.

fragranceofgreatness t1_j0p828e wrote on December 18, 2022 at 11:21 AM

It's kind of suffocating. That we can't know our reality.

EffectiveWar t1_j0oo6nt wrote on December 18, 2022 at 6:51 AM

Doomed to be both the observer and the one being observed, but never allowed to be either entirely. Until death maybe!

DriftMantis t1_j0ptyow wrote on December 18, 2022 at 3:06 PM

Haha yeah I guess!

cy13erpunk t1_j0qg2vg wrote on December 18, 2022 at 5:36 PM

i guess you could argue that reality would still 'exist' without consciousness

but then again there would be nothing to experience the qualia so how would you know?

its wild/weird stuff , but it only seems that way becuz we were previously led/misled to believe something else/different XD

DriftMantis t1_j0rjfwj wrote on December 18, 2022 at 9:45 PM

Yeah existential philosophy is just wierd. It's something most people think about but I honestly believe no one really has a clue and the people that do know you can't put some things into words, you can only directly experience a transcendental state.