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locklear24 t1_iz3c7py wrote

Reply to comment by Gmroo in The hard problem of metaphysics: figuring out if other phenomena exist in our universe that like consciousness require we bear a specific metaphysical relation to them - i.e. you can't know of consciousness without being conscious. by Gmroo

Yes, it really not that profound. We’re liminally bound. There are obviously the possibilities and even likelihoods of phenomena present in the universe we are not aware of or only aware in part of, even our instruments just being a way to extend our senses.

The solutions you’re speaking of aren’t really any different from the pattern detection we seek in the universe through our empiricism to begin with. If we can’t find direct effects, sometimes we settle for looking at downstream or indirect effects.

The blind speculation though I can do without. There may or may not be other phenomena we’re familiar with. I’ll worry about it when they have an interaction with reality that is within our ability to study.

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Gmroo OP t1_iz3cgee wrote

I find it brain-tickling and profound based on how profound and significant cosciousness is. But to each their own. :)

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locklear24 t1_iz3e296 wrote

That’s the thing though. I don’t find consciousness to be profound or significant, just the navigation system we’re stuck with.

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