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[deleted] t1_iwh0atf wrote

Reply to comment by Giggalo_Joe in Most cosmologists say dark matter must exist. So far, it’s nowhere to be found. Examining the philosophy of science behind two rival theories can explain why. by ADefiniteDescription

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InTheEndEntropyWins t1_iwh1l2i wrote

It's just that this sub practises philosophy which is closely linked to reality. It's an evidenced based approach to understanding things.

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koloquial t1_iwh2aac wrote

There are many things we cannot know, that’s part of the fun and challenge of philosophy. Not everything is material and examinable.

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InTheEndEntropyWins t1_iwh6b26 wrote

I don't understand? Say we are talking about apples falling from a tree, we have the observations and theories around that. Why would I ever care about some philosophical idea about apples actually falling upwards because that theory is fun and challenging of philosophy?

When it comes to physics I only really care about reality, proper philosophy should help us understand that reality.

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[deleted] t1_iwh94bi wrote

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InTheEndEntropyWins t1_iwhbhc5 wrote

I still don't understand. Doesn't this example then show that sure do your meta physics but don't every try and say that ideas apply to the real world of physics.

Aren't you saying, philosophers should keep their noses out of anything to do with the real world.

I'm happy either way, but when someone does some lsd and some metaphysics, they need to remember they are doing metaphysics which doesn't apply to reality.

The issue is when a philosopher does some metaphysics that doesn't' apply to reality and then for no reason thinks they have some deep insights into physics and reality.

edit: going back to the article it's like, I got this nice theory MOND from a philosophy point of view, it doesn't at all match up with reality and observations, maybe the whole idea of physics and reality is wrong.

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koloquial t1_iwhgvtu wrote

I keep getting downvoted in this cancerous sub . Just google basic or advanced thought experiments. Also read the definition of metaphysics — there are some things that physically cannot be tested and we must use logic and thought experiments to make headway.

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InTheEndEntropyWins t1_iwhhxqv wrote

I still don't understand how thought experiments which contradict with reality can be more useful that thought experiments which line up with reality.

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koloquial t1_iwhj2yk wrote

If you can physically test something, there’s no need for the thought experiment. Google it, or I guess I can google it for you

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InTheEndEntropyWins t1_iwhjsi1 wrote

Isn't that the whole point. We should concentrate on ideas that line up with physical experiments. We don't need thought experiments on ideas that contradict results from physical experiments.

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