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ItisyouwhosaythatIam t1_iwkv2wk wrote

Reply to comment by iiioiia in Why liberals cannot escape intolerance by ThomasJP1983

You can Google all these topics yourself for the proof.

Cutting taxes to grow the economy and increase tax revenue has never worked. It only increased the debt every time it's been tried. Likewise, trickle-down economics has no historical success. Whereas government economic stimulus given to the poor has proven effective, because they put it all into the economy by spending it.

More guns create more gun related crime and death, while gun restrictions have reduced them, historically.

Societies with legal safe abortion have better health outcomes for women and longer life expectancies.

Climate change has been proven to be caused by humans and needs to be addressed for the existential crisis that it is.

The big governments of socialist democracies in Scandinavia and Northern Europe report happier people because they are free from worry living in an interdependent society that provides the necessary Healthcare and Education that are bankrupting people here and enable entrepreneurs there.

Teaching our children the truth about our mistakes has created a generation of young people more engaged with their government ( recent voting turnout) who are motivated to stop making the mistakes of the past. It is a limited number of partisan parents and pundits who are worried about what the facts mean.

Isolationist immigration or economic policies have only worsened social and economic outcomes as measured by happiness and growth.

American policing has given us a record incarceration rate for people of color who are racially profiled. The system needs science based reform, not more of the same failed policies.

Any other issues of importance that I left out?

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XiphosAletheria t1_iwp5uoa wrote

Most of these are not issues that involve science, and that you present them as if they are shows only your own misunderstanding of them.

>More guns create more gun related crime and death, while gun restrictions have reduced them, historically.

More cars create more car related deaths. So too more swimming pools create more swimming pool related deaths. That is not a reason to impose more restrictions on cars or swimming pools.

>Societies with legal safe abortion have better health outcomes for women and longer life expectancies.

Societies with slavery have better health outcomes and longer life expectancies for slave owners. That doesn't make slavery right.

>The big governments of socialist democracies in Scandinavia and Northern Europe report happier people because they are free from worry living in an interdependent society that provides the necessary Healthcare and Education that are bankrupting people here and enable entrepreneurs there.

Ah, so you think other countries should aim for higher levels of ethnic homogeneity, such as Denmark. And cull their population down to 14 people per square kilometer, to match Norway?

And so on.

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iiioiia t1_iwlfu1d wrote

> You can Google all these topics yourself for the proof.

What sort of a Google search might one do to determine in an epistemically sound way that there are no conservative positions that are supported by the relevant scientific research?

> Cutting taxes to grow the economy...

"Conservative positions are often/usually dumb/self-serving/deceitful/etc" and "no conservative positions that are supported by the relevant scientific research" are different claims.

> Any other issues of importance that I left out?

Yes: evidence of your initial claim. An admission that you were speaking speculatively/hyperbolically would suffice.

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