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frogandbanjo t1_iw5mmi0 wrote

> You say this as if people don't lie to each other all the time.

You say this as though Special K didn't assume the burden of explaining why his faith stuff was special. But he did. By pointing out that self-deception can play the same role in his secret sauce as it does in the stuff he's declaring inferior, a relevant challenge is made.

>Faith in your subjective experience has been this way.

And so then Special K is faced with explaining why the subjective experience of someone who's concluded that faith isn't special, and is actually rather stupid and toxic, is somehow wrong and invalid.

He doesn't do that, though. Instead, he runs away from the argument and retreats to the safety of the choir he wants to preach to.

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JustAPerspective t1_iw5sfr5 wrote

>You say this as though Special K didn't assume

Whups... We're not talking about Soren K. - never read him, wouldn't be able to offer any informed insight.

We were talking about faith not being a matter of speculative reasoning, rather of observed realities, in response to a comment.

The person we responded to was less interested in discussion & more impressed with their own absolute vision of reality. Since we found that incompatible with intelligent conversation, we disengaged.

Discussing faith & observable reality, that we're quite happy to kick around - cooperatively, not competitively.

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