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VitriolicViolet t1_iw4mu37 wrote

>More precisely, faith must be based on subjective experience; knowledge is based on what other people experienced.

no, knowledge is based on your own experience too unless you are claiming

next people lie to themselves via faith routinely in the millions, just look at how 80%+ of religious believers have faith in things they themselves injected into their holy texts.

faith in no way excludes lying and knowledge can be based on subjective experience.

certainty is the enemy of growth.

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JustAPerspective t1_iw4ooqp wrote

>no, knowledge is based on your own experience too unless you are claiming

Please repeat... you faded.

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>next people lie to themselves via faith routinely in the millions, just look at how 80%+ of religious believers have faith in things they themselves injected into their holy texts.

People lie - to themselves, to each other, constantly. This is not specific to those of faith, it also applies in science.

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>faith in no way excludes lying and knowledge can be based on subjective experience.

We define 'knowledge' as what one is told; in that context, if what you're told is a lie then it's no more "real" than any article of faith.

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>certainty is the enemy of growth.

We find your certainty in this conversation so far a bit surprising.

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