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DBSN_Reddit_Version t1_iw3m4dg wrote

You know, it really seems like the whole "authentic individual" idea isn't all that good for you. For some reason it alwaya seems to lead to things like Nietzsche and Kirkegaard all coming up with this really like anti-social language to describe normies and how normal people are bots and you shouldn't respect in any manner or whatever. But of course seemingly no one questions this, since everyone wants to be a special, singular, authentic individual, because it pleases their ego.

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HopeFox t1_iw4btn3 wrote

"There are two kinds of people in the world: enlightened philosophers like me who understand the real world, and cave-dwellers staring at flickering shadows on the wall."

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vankessel t1_iw5p99u wrote

Can you use or quote the actual anti-social language for those not familiar? I don't think calling people sheep implies no respect in every regard, do they explicitly say to not treat them respectfully? I think it's okay to lack a little respect for those who are quick to fall-in-line, but still treat those people respectfully.

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jokokokok t1_iw6du0k wrote

You got this the wrong way; Kierkegaard sees modern society as causing inauthenticity - this is not about anti-social language, normies or anything at all like that, this is an existential 'analysis' of the human condition after/during the start of the industrial era.Suddenly we all use labels for everything, your identity is an item you take off the shelfs of some supermarket. It didn't use to be like that, actually we haven't had a way of living like that likely ever in human history.

So did the 'authentic' medieval peasant just browse instagram all day and consider himself a special singular authentic individual because it pleased his ego? Likely not. His identity was just formed under very different circumstances than how our identities are formed today. And the way today forces an 'inauthentic' formation of said identity. That is what Kierkegaards beef is with modern mass society.

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A quote by Kierkegaard in relation to the inauthenticity of identity caused by the press. I feel we all can relate to what he means, especially cause of the times we live in.

"More and more people renounce the quiet and modest tasks of life, that are so important and pleasing to God, in order to achieve something greater; in order to think over the relationships of life in a higher relationship till in the end the whole generation has become a representation, who represent…it is difficult to say who; and who think about these relationships…for whose sake it is not easy to discover. The real moment in time and the real situation being simultaneous with real people, each of whom is something; that is what helps to sustain the individual. But the existence of a public produces neither a situation nor simultaneity. The individual reader of the Press is not the public, and even though little by little a number of individuals or even all of them should read it, the simultaneity is lacking. Years might be spent gathering the public together, and still it would not be there. This abstraction, which the individuals so illogically form, quite rightly repulses the individual instead of coming to his help. The man who has no opinion of an event at the actual moment accepts the opinion of the majority, or, if he is quarrelsome, of the minority. But it must be remembered that both majority and minority are real people, and that is why the individual is assisted by adhering to them. A public, on the contrary, is an abstraction"

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monmostly t1_iw4dct7 wrote

I don't read Kierkegaard, but that headline makes it sound like a major part of his philosophy is "Don't be like all the rest! Be exceptional!" Like every Instagram influencer ever. This doesn't sound deep or useful to me. It sounds kinda toxic. You can't change the world with exceptional outliers. Is it a badly written headline? Or bad philosophy?

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Rhamni t1_iw50w6q wrote

He's basically saying "All these Christians around me are such fake fucking assholes. They go to church once a week and spend the rest of the week being hypocritical assholes who think because they are Christian they are just automatically right and proper and better than anyone who isn't. If you want to actually be Christian, take your faith and your life seriously. Just stop and think about things, and be honest with yourself." I'm not even Christian, but I mean. He's 100% correct. He would have had a lot to say about the American Christian Right of the 21st century. He's not toxic. If more Christians were like him, the world would be a better place.

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Formerredditer t1_iw4tbym wrote

>"Don't be like all the rest! Be exceptional!" Like every Instagram influencer ever.

Nah, Kierkegaard isn't about that at all.

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