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Here0s0Johnny t1_ivc4tza wrote

Reply to comment by Socrathustra in Michael Shermer argues that science can determine many of our moral values. Morality is aimed at protecting certain human desires, like avoidance of harm (e.g. torture, slavery). Science helps us determine what these desires are and how to best achieve them. by Ma3Ke4Li3

>generally find science's attempts to be philosophy laughable

For someone interested in philosophy, these words are very poorly chosen. Science cannot do things and Shermer doesn't represent science. (I suspect most scientists accept Hume's distinction.)

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Socrathustra t1_ivcapvt wrote

When I say "science's attempts to be philosophy" I don't mean science per se but rather people like Shermer or NDT who think they can plow ahead with science solving everything. It's a common viewpoint in STEM even if it's not scientific.

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Here0s0Johnny t1_ivce908 wrote

> It's a common viewpoint in STEM even if it's not scientific.

I think we have an example of a philosopher being out of their depth in a scientific matter. This is an empirical claim and you better have evidence to substantiate it.

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